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How-To: CV axle / seal replacement.

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#1 ·
Figured this is something that most of us will need to do at least once in the ownership of our cars, so I thought I'd throw up a how-to while doing it.

My drivers side CV axle seal shot craps the other day thus causing my transmission to leak like niagra falls. And since replacing the axle seal requires the removal of the axle, this how-to can cover replacing both. Resulting in a puddle like this after leaving it parked for one day.

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Sadly I had to drive it to work for 2 days with it leaking, but it wasn't a really bad leak, but it got worse on the way home the last night I drove it, so I parked it and borrowed a F-150 from work. After letting it sit for nearly 2 days, I was left with a huge puddle. Thankfully I only lost about a half quart of gear oil from when I noticed the leak and untill I started to fix it. Once the seal was removed though I pretty much lost all the gear oil in it, and my 3 month old redline with about 7k miles on it went to waste. Thankfully I had a few extra bottles laying around.

You only need a few basic tools to do this.

-Jack
-Jack stands
-10mm socket
-13mm socket ***Depending on if your car has an automatic transmission, you may need a 32mm, at least I think it is, spindle nut socket instead of the 13mm socket***
-14mm socket
-17mm socket
-19mm socket *I might have to verify this one, it may be larger*
-23mm socket or a wrench ***Manual transmission only***
-Flat head screw driver
-Needle nose pliars
-Pry bar
-Big hammer
-Breaker bar
-Impact wrench *helpful but not needed*
-Ratchet
-PB blaster *can be helpfull on any rusty nuts*
-Seal puller *provided you are replacing the seal, as is my case*
-Torque wrench *once again, not needed, but if your anal about torque specs you can use one. I'm a mechanic, and the only thing I really use a torque wrench for is fragile stuff or rebuilding an engine. For everything else, I use the german method, "goodentight" or the half vien method, which is when you see half a vein popping out of your arm, that will let you know when things are tight*
-Music *I can't work on a car without tunes, I perfer country music, your mileage may vary*

This covers the drivers side axle for a car with a manual transmission, the passenger side is a similar concept but a little bit different as there is an intermediate shaft that is bolted to the backside of the engine and the cv axle goes into that. In theory, you shouldn't need to replace the seal on the passenger side since its protected a lot better then the one on the drivers side, but you never know. A piece of road drebris came up and smacked the crap out of the copper shield thats on the cv axle and sent it into the seal tearing it to kingdom come. Personally, I think the passenger side is a little bit easier to work with for the axle, just because of the way its laid out.

First thing first is to loosen the lugnuts and then jack the car up and secure it on jackstands and remove the wheel. I didnt take a picture of that, because if you can't figure out how to do that, you shouldnt be doing this in the first place. You'll want to remove the plastic underbody shield now as well, there are 7 10mm bolts that hold it in place, and 2 plastic clips. You may or may not have this plastic clips anymore, they break quite easily and most people get pissed off at them and throw them away. Both of mine finally broke today when I was removing them, so they got tossed. The side part of the wheel well that the underbody bolts to needs to removed as well, there are 2 10mm bolts that hold it in place, along with one plastic friction clip with a plastic screw in the middle of it.

Next thing you'll need to do is remove the cotter key from the tie rod end on the spindle. Thats this guy here.

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Once removed, you'll have access to the 14mm nut on the tie rod end. You may need to spray this with some PB blaster to get it off. Sometimes the shaft on the tie rod end will spin with the nut making it a pain in the butt to remove. I just zipped it off with my impact though.

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Now youll need to remove the sway bar endlink from the strut. Once again, its a 14mm nut. Same thing applies here with the PB blaster.

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You'll need to push up on the control arm a little bit in order to get the sway bar endlink to slide out of the strut. It gets angled funky once you remove the nut making it difficult to remove, once the control arm is pushed up, it falls out of the strut reallly easy.

You'll notice you can now turn the suspension independently from the other side, cool huh?

Now we need to get the axle out of the wheel hub so we can pop it out of the transmission. There are two ways of doing this, the first way is to pop the ball joint on the lower control arm out of the spindle and pull the wheel hub and entire suspension away from the car so the axle pops out of the hub. Ideally, this is the easiest way of doing it, since it only requires the removal of 1 bolt on the spindle to free the ball joint from it. However, sometimes the ball joint doesnt want to come out of the spindle even if you jump up and down on the control arm once you remove the bolt.

Such was the case for me today, so I unbolted the control arm from the subframe and still left the control arm attached to the spindle. This will give you enough play room to get the axle out of the hub and eventually out of the transmission. Unfourtantly, I really didnt get any pics of this process here because I didnt exactly feel like laying in a pudle of gear oil, nor could I get my camera situated in a good position to take a picture of 2 of the bolts on the rear of the control arm. There are 3 bolts total that you need to remove in order to do this. 2 on the rear of the control arm on the bottom, and one on the front facing the front of the car.

The two bolts on the rear are 17mm, and I believe the one on the front is 19mm. I'm not too sure of this though, it may be larger, but no bigger then 22mm. I'm fairly confident its a 19mm though.

Heres a picture of the position of the front bolt on the control arm once the control arm was already removed.

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On the control arm, you can see the two spots where the 17mm bolts go thru on the back of it.

*NOTE* This is where this How-To will vary depending on the type of transmission you have. *NOTE*

On manual transmission cars, the CV axle is held into the hub with a washer and a 13mm bolt. On automatic transmission cars, instead of a bolt that goes into CV axle, there is a spindle nut that goes on it. Don't ask me why theres a difference, I just know there is. On a side note, I'm not entirely sure if the type of transmission is the reason of different retention methods of the axle to the hub, it may be differences in model years, but I'm 98% certain its due to difference in transmissions.

Anyways, once whatever thing is holding the axle in place to the hub is removed, you should be able to slide the axle on out of the hub and only have it in the transmission. It should look something like this.

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Now for the fun part, getting the axle out of the transmission. I mean that kind of sarcastically, because this requires laying on your back underneath the car and putting quite a bit of muscle behind a pry bar to pop the axle out of the transmission. You are going to get dirty doing this, because once that axles out transmission fluid or gear oil, depending on what you drive, is gonna be gushing out where the axle was in the transmission. Provided you dont drain the transmission first. I didnt do that during this How-To, considering the size of the puddle underneath my car, I thought for sure my transmission was nearly bone dry. I was dead wrong. I had apparantly only lost near a half quart of gear oil, so I still had most of the oil in the transmission. So play it smart, drain the fluid first. I regret not doing that now, lesson learned. On manual transmissions you'll use the 23mm wrench to remove the drain plug, on automatics, you'll need to drop the pain, as there is no drain plug on them. I'm not sure what size bolts they are off the top of my head as I don't own a slush box. :lol: I'll check into it though when I work next. I'd assume they are probably 10mm though.

Where were we? Oh thats right, getting the axle out of the transmission, this part sucks the most due to the snap ring on the end of the axle that locks it into the transmission. Once you are situated underneath the car, take the pry bar and pry against the axle and the transmission. It's going to take some force to get it out of the transmission, but if my scrawny butt can do it, you can do it too. Once you pop it out, pull the axle out. Voila! Hard part done, you should be left with something that looks like this.

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Nows a good time to take a break, you've earned it! Have a smoke or grab a beer. :cheers: :rhigareda:

Ok, breaks over, lets get back to work.

In my case, I needed to replace the seal, so grab the seal puller and yank it on out.

Here's why I had a fatty puddle under my car.

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See that chunk missing? Thats not good. :lol:

And heres why, the copper shield that goes on the axle to protect the seal got knocked loose and chewed up the seal.

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The shield thing is only available with a new axle from the dealership, you can't purchase it seperately, its not a critical thing to have, so I just tossed it in the dumpster. Putting a new seal in is quite simple, just push it in place.

Now its time to get the axle back in the transmission, line up the splines and pound it in with the hammer. Your going to need a big hammer for this, a rubber mallet won't work either, it needs to be metal. Don't be afraid to give it a good whack. The axles are pretty tough, they can handle a few hits of a hammer. You'll feel it go into the transmission and lock into place.

Congrats! Now its time to put everything back together in reverse order of dissasembly. This is easy. Once everythings back together, double check to make sure everythings tight, once again, I perfer the german method of "goodentight". Fill the transmission back up with fluid, put the wheel back on, lower the car, fire up the car and go for a drive. Check for any abnormal sounds or any leakage of fluids from the transmission. If there aren't any, CONGRATS! You've just replaced your cv axle, or your seal, or perhaps both if need be.
 
#27 ·
what do you mean core charge?
 
#29 ·
ohhh i seeeeeee

thanks for the info!
 
#30 ·
I am having a ridiculous time getting the axle out of the transmission. I'm using a "Wonderbar" from Home Depot. Any other tool that is recommended? I'm replacing the engine because there's a hole in the block from a hydrolock, and this is the last thing stopping me from yanking the whole thing out of the engine bay.
 
#34 ·
Alright everyone here we go.
Me and a friend are attempting to tackle this one on our own. We've followed the directions to the best of our ability and had a heck of a time getting the axle from the wheel assembly. We managed to finally pop it out of the wheel and now we are having a hell of a time removing the axle (or actually what's left I tried to pull the end and the boot gave way so it's just a metal nub on the end of the passenger extension) We only had one side jacked up and after a few hours we gave up. Were going to try to jack the the other side up in the morning so it's level and give it another go. Do you think with the car being level it'll be easier to get the axle out of the extender?
 
#36 ·
What are the issues you are having with your car?
 
#38 ·
to me sounds like wheel bearings. do the test and see if it has any play in it.
 
#39 ·
Ya but damn getting the axle out of the extenders shaft was a pain and then I ended up busting my ball joint boot trying to lower my control arm all for "nothing" but at least the car drives better

Anyway with a little more research I found that an accident can cause a wheel bearing to fail and I had a horrible 2500$ run in with a curb in feburary so I'm guessing this bearing if now the culprit. Do you happen to know if theres a walkthrough or what new parts I'd need to get? I did a quick search and found it's part of an assembly can i just get a new assembly?

Thanks everyone
 
#40 ·
I'm swapping out the driver's side CV/half axle on my 2006 Mazda 3S 2.3L AT. I was able to get the ball joint on the lower control arm off of the hub/knuckle (photo 1 below), and the axle pulled out of the transaxle case (photo 2), but my issue is that the outer spindle is seized in the hub/knuckle. I've even put some penetrating oil on the inner and outer spindle and put a puller on the axle & hub to try to press it out (you can see the puller in photo 1), but nothing is working. Has anyone else had this much difficulty in removing the spindle from the hub?

Photo 1 - Lower control arm ball joint removed from knuckle
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Photo 2 - CV joint removed from transaxle
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For those that have had trouble removing the lower control arm ball joint from the knuckle, I turned the knuckle to the rear and used a 2x4 block of wood and a dead blow mallet to knock the ball joint out of the knuckle, but it took a lot of pounding to get it out.

For those that have had trouble removing the axle shaft from the transaxle, I used a large (about 18-20 inches) heavy-duty pry bar and wedged it in between the transaxle housing and the inner CV housing. It pried out without too much difficulty.

I'm almost in disbelief that the spindle shaft would be so badly seized in the hub.

Thanks for any suggestions!
 
#41 ·
OK, I was able to finally get the old axle spindle out of the hub. It took a while, but I kept putting penetrating oil on the axle splines and tightening the puller. Eventually, the puller started to get easier to "tighten" and the axle slowly gave way. It took a surprising amount of force to push it out.

Installing the new axle was a breeze compared to the removal of the old one! Just got back from a test drive and everything's A-OK.
 
#42 ·
Slider hammer is about the easiest way of getting it out of the transmission.

Last axle I did on a 3 I used one and it only took 3 whacks with the slide hammer before it popped out. Literally only took me 20 minutes from jacking the car up off the ground, replacing the axle, and back to driving it on the last one.
 
#44 ·
I'm wondering the same thing. I need to do the passenger side seal. I bought the Haynes manual and it really isn't as helpful as it should be. Says to remove the driveaxle first, which directs you to the driveaxle removal procedure, but we don't really separate the shaft from the inner CV joint as it says if all we need to fix is the transaxle seal. At least I hope not.
It would be helpful to have a list of what we need to do to make sure we have enough slack on the passenger axle to get the shaft out.

Does this sound right?

Loosen driveaxle/hub nut
jack up car and remove wheel
remove splash apron around fenderwell
Separate control arm from steering knuckle
Remove brake caliper and hang aside
Take off hub nut
Remove wheel speed sensor
Swing knuckle hub assy out until the driveaxle is free. (support the end)
Undo bolts holding intermediate shaft bearing (and support)

Now we should be able to get the shaft out right? Did I miss anything?
Any easier way to do this?
 
#45 · (Edited by Moderator)
I used this thread as reference when pulling my transmission out last week. I too damaged the metal dust cover when prying the axle out, and I managed to find a suitable replacement part. I ordered a dust cover from the passenger axle, actually the half shaft on the transmission side. I have pics below, but to foreshadow, I discovered the passenger side dust cover is about 2 mm thicker (longer) than the original drivers side. I thought this would cut into the axle seal, but upon inspecting the axle I discovered that the original dust cover wasn't pressed on all the way. There is actually about 2 mm of space in which you can further press the dust cover into. So I cleaned the area of rust and dust and pressed on the new dust cover. See below.


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Pic of old:
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Pick of new:
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Installed
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#48 ·
Showngo2000

You can get an "inner cv axle puller" attachment for slide hammers... Just google it, anywhere from 20 to 40 bucks or so online.... They are occasionally stocked at some local chain parts stores, but usually have to be ordered in... It slips between the dust cover and transfer case seal and you use the slide hammer in a pulling fashion to pop the axle out. Probably your best bet of removing an axle on the 3 w/o damaging the dust cover...prob good for when you are not replacing the axle but need to remove and replace it to do other work... It should do a clean job, but I'm not 100% certain it will fit our cars. It says fits many ford applications, so i think it might. I would check the dimensions first though before shelling out the money for one.
 
#51 ·
I follow this guy to change my CV axles the other day. I was able to pull it step by step for the driver side, but unfortunately I couldn't get around that clip on the passenger side. I have to bring it to a mechanic this week So annoyed that I was able to replace the whole thing, but couldn't get around a tiny clip.
 
#52 ·
did my wife's Elantra half axles a couple of years ago. Did the passenger side in about 20 minutes without issue. When removing the nut from the top of the lower ball joint on the driver's side the nut went cross threaded (in the middle of the f$#king threads), and just high enough to get my wrench stuck on it. Ended up having to saw off the stud on the ball joint and replace it. Was a PITA because it had to sit on stands for a few days while I waited for parts...... and if it hadn't been for that nut it would have been done as fast as the other side.

I feel your pain.