You folks are all forgetting one thing. COBB is NOT cheaper. Their base system is $700~ If you want to do any tuning on your own, you have to pay them $200 to use their software. If you want to, you can buy it for the base map (If they have one) then wait months at a time for them to release more maps as they get them. The XEDE comes with everything.
The XEDE is not JUST band aid. Have you even taken a look at the web page and seen exactly what it does? Let me show you.
Technical Specifications
* 2400 possible adjustments per bank
* 0.1% full-scale accuracy on analog channel adjustments (MAF, MAP, TPS)
* 0.1degree accuracy on timing adjustments
* Direct plug-in adaptor available for Mitsubishi EVO V / VI / VII / IIIV, 01-05 Subaru WRX, 04 STi, 2001/02 GT Forester, Mazda RX8
Boost control example
We now have XEDE boost control working in both
absolute
and
intercept modes. In
absolute mode, you simply input
your desired wastegate duty cycles as a function of load and RPM and
your factory boost control hardware does the rest.
In
intercept mode, instead of inputting actual duty cycle values, you input offset to stock. For example, if you want 14.8% more boost , you simply put "14.8%" in the desired cells in your boost map.
In either mode, you have the ability to run a RPM-dependant boost profile of your choice. This is far superior to using a stand-alone boost controller,
most of which are only capable of holding one boost level all the way
up to redline. Also, the boost control logic in the XEDE greatly
improves both low RPM and partial-throttle boost response
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I'll most likely be going with one... I just don't know which yet. i want both to be out before I decide. One thing that is very attractive about the COBB solution is the price tag at this point. I hope that The capitalism works itself out and they decide to not only compete on product, but price as well.
Most of my mods at first will probably *don't quote me on this!* not be performance oriented. I'll probably be doing my custom nav (carpc), remote start, seat heaters, autodim side mirrors, sound system, things like that before i throw an intake or exhaust on.
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[quote author=Mellman link=topic=66934.msg1150309#msg1150309 date=1168871788]
I'll most likely be going with one... I just don't know which yet. i want both to be out before I decide. One thing that is very attractive about the COBB solution is the price tag at this point. I hope that The capitalism works itself out and they decide to not only compete on product, but price as well.
Most of my mods at first will probably *don't quote me on this!* not be performance oriented. I'll probably be doing my custom nav (carpc), remote start, seat heaters, autodim side mirrors, sound system, things like that before i throw an intake or exhaust on.
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funny, mine will be the opposite!! I will be going with COBB. I have been researching COBB for a couple of months now as I was going to buy a 2007 STi and fell in love with the numbers that the stage 2 AP (AP,and TBE = stage 2) produced. I chose the speed3 instead of the STi because i save about $20,000 CAD and that leaves alot of cash for upgrades. check out their numbers for results from their accessport...They are going to get better numbers out of the speed3 because of how rich the speed3 runs. Another plus is that I wont have to weld any wires together under the hood...just plug and play!
By the way...if your planning on either of these, make sure you replace the plastic BPV...i recommend still going with a recirc. set up, but if you prefer the ppssshhhhh! noise to be stupid loud, than go for the VTA style. (if you want recirc. with pppssshhhh!! get yourself a CAI too, thats my plan).
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Yeah I've been doing plenty of research on both sides...and COBB had me at hello, then they stopped talking
Then XEDE came and flashed all this shiny stuff in front of me...and COBB stayed silent. I'll be waiting for their reply. its not a huge deal for me because i have yet to even get my car - but we'll see when all our out said and done, I'm sure there will be many posts comparing/contrasting the two on here
i'm not worried.
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