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How much snow do you get there? Does it stay on the roads very long or melt off quickly?

If you are going to be driving a lot on snow-covered roads, then you'll be better off with a snow tire. If you drive in the snow a few times a year, then an all-season will be fine. Although the stock all-season is not particularly good in snow and you should be careful.
 

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FR3D said:
Just wondering if anyone thinks snow tires are necessary for the 17s in the Lower Mainland area?
If you just stay in the city, dont - there's just no need.

I go skiing so I like to have a winter set.

Bombadil said:
How much snow do you get there?
In the city we usually get a dusting once or twice, but nothing that stays. If you head up to the hills, if a different matter.
 

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thx for the comments guys
so how does the stock tire perform on wet surface? since we get so much rain here every winter
btw...I'm one of those people who stay in the Van/Richmond/Burnaby area only, so I won't really see any snow at all
 

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According to collective opinion of over 1400 owners of Goodyear Eagle RS-A tires that have responded to the survey at Tirerack, the wet traction rating is 6.1 on a 0-10 scale. This puts it 17th in its group of 20 tires in the "High Performance All-Season" catagory.

In the catagory of "Hydro Resistance" it also scores a 6.1, ranking it 16th out of 20.

In both catagories, 10 of the 20 tires scored between 7.0 to 8.7.

Not particularly good scores for the RS-A, but not horrible either. If you are an aggressive driver, then you would be better off upgrading. But the tire should at least be safe if you don't push it too hard.

It is rare when a manufacturer puts on a truly good tire as standard equipment.
 

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Its good enough.

In colorado, we get our share of snow. It handles fine for a stock tire. Of course I would have expected a better tire. But the price range for the car just doesnt make it feasible.
 

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I think the handling on the car more than makes up for anything missing in the tires. On the rain today hard around corners and no problems. Guess it depends if you're racing or just driving for fun. As for snow - what snow?
 

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the rating on the tires don't seem too good, but I guess it can't be any worse than what's on an Integra SE right? I used to drive that and they just sucked in the rain
 

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It's just been raining lightly, so a hard rain will be the true test. I've got no cash to trade in new tires for another brand. Guess I'll see how these perform.
 

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The Goodyears perform just fine. At least in 5" snow so far.
 

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The RS-A will work in snow, but they aren't a good performer in snow. Of that there is no question. This is well documented on multiple tire survey sites and in road testing performed on the tire.

I noted above that their overall score on rain was a 6.1 out of 10, based on survey result of over 1400 owners of the tire. In the snow that rating falls to 5.1, which is definitely worse than average for an all-season and is the worst performance characteristic of this tire. However it is better than some of the other "all-season" stock tires on new cars.

My last Toyota came with Firestone FR-680's as stock. They are truly terrible. Much worse than the RS-A. And back in the mid-90's, I bought a new Caravan that came with Goodyear Invicta GL's, another truly terrible tire.

Good tires cost too much to install as standard equipment except on upscale performance cars, where buyers expect good rubber.

As far as sub-$20K cars go, the RS-A is one of the better stock tires you will find. I definitely would not buy it as a replacement, and if you ever used a good tire on a Mz3 and switched back, I expect you'd immediately notice the difference.

Since Goodyear does sell these tires for a hefty price, there is a chance that you could sell them as new off the car, or maybe even work out a trade-in credit at a local tire dealer who sells Goodyear, if you want to upgrade right away.

A new set of RS-A's in 205/50-17 will cost you close to $600. So Mazda should be credited as having tried to equip the car with a much better tire than what is normally found in this price class.
 

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Our yearly snowfall

Absinthe said:
Finally it snows in Vancouver.
A bit too late for white Christmas.
Had to try it in the snow today. Tires worked fine - not great as expected, but as good as many all-seasons I've had in the past. If it snows a lot, get snow tires. Otherwise, slow down and enjoy the beauty of the snow.
 

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Your car's going to be as sweet as mine. I'm hoping to take it up the sea-to-sky next week. I got a car that was destined for Kamloops- the dealerships switched. When's yours coming in?
 

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Your car's going to be as sweet as mine. I'm hoping to take it up the sea-to-sky next week. I got a car that was destined for Kamloops- the dealerships switched. When's yours coming in?
I was told that I can get it on Tues/Wed, looking forward and getting excited already :p

I'll definitely try to show up for the meet :D
 

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God DAMN the tires sucked in that snow/ice the other day. Holy Shit. First car I've had that I've been scared to drive in the ice. I gotta get some Falken's on those wheels soon. I'm against snow tires in vancouver cause we only get 1 week of snow per year but I need some decent all-seasons.
 
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