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Although my windshield is still in pretty good shape it does have a few nicks and in the wrong places...:serious:. I opt for a glass that is a little better quality and slightly softer giving it a little better chip resistant then the MAZDA factory glass.
How does one even ascertain that information? OE parts are usually better quality than aftermarket replacements especially when it comes to stuff like body and glass. A friend got their windshield replaced with a Pilkington one which is supposed to be one of the better brands and even that had visible distortion in part of the glass.
 

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How does one even ascertain that information? OE parts are usually better quality than aftermarket replacements especially when it comes to stuff like body and glass. A friend got their windshield replaced with a Pilkington one which is supposed to be one of the better brands and even that had visible distortion in part of the glass.
I would say that is an excellent choice and the one I will be replacing mine with.
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I once had a conversation with a "GLASS" guy (owner and operator of hi company for over 20 years) about the different quality of glass. He told me it was all about the cost and that most all glass was the same.
Yet when I compared glass quality for consistent thickness ,wave , hardness, clarity there seemed to be big differences in the glass? I made it a mission to research it. The information is out there and it is "crystal clear" as glass about the different brands. :wink2: :laugh:
 

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Be sure to let us know what you install for the windshield. I'm considering replacing the windshield in my MZ3 as it's littered with tiny divots and has a few chips.
 

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Be sure to let us know what you install for the windshield. I'm considering replacing the windshield in my MZ3 as it's littered with tiny divots and has a few chips.
I had the shop bring out 4 different aftremarket brands they carried and a MAZDA oem.

Pilkington by far was the best. That will be the one I use. I might add that my M3 has all the windshield sensors and what not and out of all the ones even the seal and other parts just looked better over all which included positioning even over the oem MAZDA. Pilkington uses OEM seals and other components on their windshields?


This is not my first experience uses Pilkington windshields. It was my replacement choice for my MINIs as well for other reason having to do with sizing and naturally chip resistance. The MINI windshield just stick out and says chip me!

For me windshields are cheap and I dont like looking through impaired vision caused by tiny chips and having rain and snow wipe challenges with the wipers. So changing a windshield every other years or less on some of my cars is normal for me.
 

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How does one even ascertain that information? OE parts are usually better quality than aftermarket replacements especially when it comes to stuff like body and glass. A friend got their windshield replaced with a Pilkington one which is supposed to be one of the better brands and even that had visible distortion in part of the glass.
So... No comment on this part?
 

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So... No comment on this part?
Please forgive the response but,
No..I don't want to comment. It will only serve to open a "Pandora's box" of responses I do not really want on my none techie thread. Besides been there done that on several forums over the last 2o years and I know how a thread about the quality of glass will go. I may suggest if you really want to learn about windshields look up what it takes to make them. Your answer will be there.
 

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Please forgive the response but,
No..I don't want to comment. It will only serve to open a "Pandora's box" of responses I do not really want on my none techie thread. Besides been there done that on several forums over the last 2o years and I know how a thread about the quality of glass will go. I may suggest if you really want to learn about windshields look up what it takes to make them. Your answer will be there.
Doesn't change the fact that letting a defect like that out the door means their quality control isn't the best, its the only time I've EVER seen a visible defect in auto glass. It didn't bother my friend seeing as it was on the passenger side but if it happened to me I would want it replaced again free of charge. On that subject, do glass makers have warranties against defects in their product that would reimburse the installer for replacement of the windshield if something like this happened?
 

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I thought this would be a good place to start a thread about the conversation of mostly windshield. Although we can talk about the other glass as well.
What do you all use?
What in your experience has been the best brand?

And so on......

This thread has come up on countless forums. As we all know sooner or later we need to consider replacing the windshield.
 

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Just one data point; I had a new Pilkington windshield put in my TL last year and the optics are flawless. :)
 

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This thread has come up on countless forums. As we all know sooner or later we need to consider replacing the windshield.
Um, I've never needed to replace a windshield after owning cars manufactured across multiple decades (60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 10s) except for the aughts ('00 - '09). Been driving for 35 years.

Maybe I'm an anomaly? BTW, in Colorado I get free windshield chip repair from Geico. They do it for free because they know it's cheaper than replacing my windshield after it cracks.

I didn't know that people ever replace their windshields unless they completely crack. Where have I been all these years...
 

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I suppose the number one reason I replace a windshield is it is not simply cracked, to use this info;

Prevents Glares on the Road
A clean, undamaged windshield is less susceptible to sun glares. Though, a damaged one can easily reflect glares because of the scratches, chips, and cracks in it. Getting a windshield replacement prevents this issue and keeps you safe.



This ^^^^ also applies to wiper performance. The worst shape a windshield is the less *effective a wiper is. And we all know that very few *replace their wiper every season as they should. (*that's another thread topic)

Last year CAL TRANS (California Department of Transportation) paid for one windshield in one of my cars and a independent Trucking company 2 years ago paid for a windshield of mine from a "wreckless" driver filmed from my dash cam including the impact that cracked my windshield.
 

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Um, I've never needed to replace a windshield after owning cars manufactured across multiple decades (60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 10s) except for the aughts ('00 - '09). Been driving for 35 years.

Maybe I'm an anomaly? BTW, in Colorado I get free windshield chip repair from Geico. They do it for free because they know it's cheaper than replacing my windshield after it cracks.

I didn't know that people ever replace their windshields unless they completely crack. Where have I been all these years...
Hmmm, my wife and I have needed to do three over our 45+ years (each) of driving (racking up over 3,000,000 miles in the process). One was a very long time ago and I don't remember the circumstances. The most recent two were as follows:
  • Driving my 2001 Accord on a day following a lot of snow and sanding of the roads, I got a small star on the passenger side of the windshield. If I'd had time to drive from that spot directly to a glass repair facility I probably would have been good to go. Unfortunately I was heading to a very important appointment. On the way home that night the temperatures had plunged to something like 4°F; and as luck would have it, I hit a very big pot hole as I was getting off the ramp near my local auto glass place. CRACK! The windshield cracked from the location of the star about eighteen inches toward the driver's side. By the time I pulled into their lot, the crack was all the way across to the driver's side A-pillar.
  • Three days after purchasing my TL last May I got a very small star near the driver's side A-pillar; I went to my local glass place (same as last time) and they took a look-see and said, "Good news, bad news; the star is in a legal place to repair, however, it is so close to the A-pillar, just the process of honing out the glass over the star has a 50-50 chance of cracking all the way to the edge of the glass." Sure enough, in spite of his best efforts, the glass cracked.
 

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Clarity about responses in this thread from the beginning. Having read this forums guidelines and considerations I asked members to start a thread about windshields/glass more intended for the purpose of discussions and talk about automotive glass mainly windshields. Before starting the tread I obtained permission and requested with the Administration/moderators that if I start a thread to transfer comments pertaining to windshields on my personal none technical project thread to this thread to further the conversation about auto glass solely for that purpose.
 

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This was the first begining post in this thread.


I am sorry it end up further down the response time line but I am sure we can carry on from here?



I thought this would be a good place to start a thread about the conversation of mostly windshield. Although we can talk about the other glass as well.
What do you all use?
What in your experience has been the best brand?

And so on......

This thread has come up on countless forums. As we all know sooner or later we need to consider replacing the windshield.
 

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Um, how did I end up with a comment at the top of a thread that I didn't create?
You have special powers you aren't aware of.

With great power comes great responsibility. That's what my uncle told me before he died. Wait, that was from Spiderman.
 

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I've had one or two windshields replaced in 30 years of vehicle ownership. In Oklahoma, it's tire patching that's common and free by most tire shops even if the customer doesn't purchase tires.
 

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You have special powers you aren't aware of.

With great power comes great responsibility. That's what my uncle told me before he died. Wait, that was from Spiderman.
LOL, I must have mod/admin powers in my sleep.


On the subject of glass I've heard Safelite glass is trash. Sadly, the OE Carlite glass on my old Escort was was virtually indestructible. Maybe it has something to do with it being softer like M3RacerX said about Pilkington but that's a two edged sword. The previous owner of the car must have used a metal scraper to remove ice from the windows, leaving deep scratches you could feel with your fingernail. Every light at night looked like a star and me having astigmatism didn't help matters. I had glass coverage for the 8 years that I owned the car and no matter how big the rock was, how large a chip it left, and the hot and cold swings of CNY the windshield unfortunately never cracked. My mother's Taurus X is the same way except hers looks like it was driven behind a gravel truck for its whole life even though it was only 2 years old when we got it. There are seriously 5-10 small chips per square inch, the fog lights are also opaque from all the chips and no amount of wet sanding and buffing will clear them up but oddly enough the paint is find and shows no sign of being a respray either. Because of this I would much rather have harder glass, at least it will crack and let me reap the benefits of my insurance that I have paid $$$$$ into over the years without any kind of claim.
 
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