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If you have one, post your temps.
Also, where is it mounted, in the manifold or downpipe.
Is your timing retarded?

Mine is installed in the manifold, its ceramic coated and under boost Im hitting close to 1700. This is too hot for me. I want to get in the 1400 range. Im gonne play with the timing and bring it back to stock, Im also getting a tune done friday to check the A/F.
 

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i think in the manifold is a bit too close isn't it?
 

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no, its not unusual to get a pre turbo temp. I know Im hot, I just want to see what others are getting.
 

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Having it in the Manifold is ok and the best place to get more accurate temp readings, but you run a risk of damaging the turbo if the probe breaks.

I have mine after turbo in the cast turbo outlet. I don't see anything over 1250F

I thought the emanage was only doing fuel?
 

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[quote author=edrection link=topic=67778.msg1167498#msg1167498 date=1169682930]
it does do fuel. Im gonna bring timing back to stock and see what I get.
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Then how are you adjusting timing?
 

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[quote author=edrection link=topic=67778.msg1167555#msg1167555 date=1169684529]
crank sensor
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Cool, what timing are you seeing during a run? I have some old datalogs of the timing during a run. What scan tool are you reading timing with? Let me know I'm interested in seeing what the are on other cars.
But as far as the crank sensor it should be moved all the way back/down to retard timing...double check that first as it has been a while since I adjusted it.
 

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down advances timing., you mean up. I dont have a datalogger yet, I have one coming monday. its a AutoEnginuity scanner, logger, everything.

Timing didnt make a diffrence with my EGT. It has to be fuel, it should be corrected when I get it tuned friday.
 

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leave your crank sensor complete back for full retard, don't change that until other timing methods come out, you could do some damage that way.

do you have an A/F gauge hooked up yet? that's the easiest way to see what's going on....on the fly
 

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what do you mean by back? up or down? I have mune pushed up. The advance timing thread goes down so I went up.
 

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Still hot. Im starting to think its my gauge or sensor. Its reaching temps that are impossibly hot. I dont have expensive gauges so its possible. After I get tuned, if its still not cool, Ill get another gauge. I pulled a plug and theres no signs of overheating.
 

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[quote author=edrection link=topic=67778.msg1167218#msg1167218 date=1169673921]
Mine is installed in the manifold, its ceramic coated and under boost Im hitting close to 1700. This is too hot for me. I want to get in the 1400 range. Im gonne play with the timing and bring it back to stock, Im also getting a tune done friday to check the A/F.
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ummm wouldn't ceramic coating help to hold in the heat in the exhaust line? I thought the whole point of getting the ceramic coating was to help hold heat into the exhaust, helping the turbo spool faster, and help keep heat from getting to other things that might have been saved by the oem heatshield you nolonger have.

I don't get it what's wrong with heat in the exhaust?
 

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read up dude, high egt's are a sign of running lean. I was wrough about wanting to get in the 1400's, I want to be at 1200 max.
 

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...wait...what?

the e-manage doens't affect fuel? that's all it does, it adjusts what is supposed to be injected and adds to that....?

am i missing something, aren't all the SCI kits using this setup?
 

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Have you looked into the maps of the Emanage to see if the correct one is working or triple checked the wiring to the Emanage to make sure it is working itself.

How do you know you are running lean besides thinking it is because of the high EGT's?

Have you talked to Jared?
 

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humm...

that sounds quite like an impulsive thing you did there!

I know Jerad has a lot of unsatisfied customers these time (just watch his section)
but the Emanage actually control fuel. It sounds like you have a bad connection
somewhere...

I understand Juan makes very good quality kit and all, but your kit was designed to
work safely with no hassle at all, I'd try to call Jerad first.

There is many people running his kit with no problems at all. It just may be a mapping
problem, do you have a wideband hooked up?
 

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[quote author=edrection link=topic=67778.msg1172293#msg1172293 date=1169951949]
read up dude, high egt's are a sign of running lean. I was wrough about wanting to get in the 1400's, I want to be at 1200 max. The e-manage dosent affect fuel, the car is running lean, yours is too, and you will detonate, melt a piston, melt exhaust valves or drop a valve if you continue to run it. You could disconnect the emanage and the car would run exactly the same. Its window dressing, it dosent do a damn thing. A standalone is needed, a piggyback dosent do shit. I bought a haltech fron Juan as its the only thing that can add fuel to the car. We are lucky to have Juan as a vendor.
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wait what? if my car was running lean it would throw a code, which it isn't. so please let me know how you figured that out.

btw if you decide to go with the haltech be prepaired to pay out the ass. the SCI injectors won't work with Juan's setup, not without some sort of intermediate harness. your also going to have to put a map sensor in there somewhere to read the intake manifold pressure since that's what's driving the haltech.

what made you decide that your car was running lean and the emanage was doing nothing?
 

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[quote author=edrection link=topic=67778.msg1172293#msg1172293 date=1169951949]
read up dude, high egt's are a sign of running lean. I was wrough about wanting to get in the 1400's, I want to be at 1200 max. The e-manage dosent affect fuel, the car is running lean, yours is too, and you will detonate, melt a piston, melt exhaust valves or drop a valve if you continue to run it. You could disconnect the emanage and the car would run exactly the same. Its window dressing, it dosent do a damn thing. A standalone is needed, a piggyback dosent do shit. I bought a haltech fron Juan as its the only thing that can add fuel to the car. We are lucky to have Juan as a vendor.
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wait what? if my car was running lean it would throw a code, which it isn't. so please let me know how you figured that out.

btw if you decide to go with the haltech be prepaired to pay out the ass. the SCI injectors won't work with Juan's setup, not without some sort of intermediate harness. your also going to have to put a map sensor in there somewhere to read the intake manifold pressure since that's what's driving the haltech.

what made you decide that your car was running lean and the emanage was doing nothing?
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Thise injectors will work just fine with the Haltech, he will just have to splice in the wires like everyone else. The Haltech does come with all the sensors need to run it..MAP, IAT, Water Temp.

But I'm also curious as to why the Emanage is not working. This is one reason why an A/F gauge is a good thing to have.

Theres nothing wrong with being over protective, but just make sure you know what is wrong before you start buying other stuff. With these kits they make figuring out problems alittle harder. It just takes time.

And what makes you think you will throw a CEL if you are running lean?
I can tell you that if you are waiting for the CEL to tell you that you are running lean it is too late when it comes on, as you will have a hole in the block before that happens!

If you don't have an A/F gauge you should atleast get on the dyno to see if your AFR are in check.
 

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The emanage dosent control the injectors. Just the MAF voltage. If you guys feel safe with the e-manage then disregard what I said and continue to use it.


For you guys running the Haltech, where does the MAP sensor go? Does it go in the intercooler pipes or just a vacuum line?
 
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