this is my 3rd new vehicle. first was a '97 pontiac grand prix supercharged GTP that was rated at 240 hp and 260 tq then i went to a VW 1.8 TURBO GTI that dynoed at 196 hp and 237 tq. after rolling these 2 cars for 10 years a vowed that i would never drive another naturally aspired car although i can't seem to keep my eyes off the nissan Z. the speed3 is definately the snappiest of the 3 and i really havn't opened it up yet.