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Has anyone considered using a vortex generator (ie. TornadoFuelSaver) in the intake system (choose your placement, but I was thinking either at the outlet of a FMIC and/or in the turbo intake pipe,) on a MS3 to see what would happen?

I'm no scientist, however I was thinking that the rotating air mass would go around bends a little easier and, if before the turbo, would get the air spinning in the same direction as the turbo spools to help push it along.

*shrugs*

What'cha think?
 

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[quote author=TruboPower link=topic=140354.msg3025326#msg3025326 date=1238370137]
No.
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Care to elaborate?
 

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[quote author=Mizzle link=topic=140354.msg3025374#msg3025374 date=1238371729]
[quote author=TruboPower link=topic=140354.msg3025326#msg3025326 date=1238370137]
No.
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Care to elaborate?
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it dont work
 

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[quote author=cali_axela link=topic=140354.msg3025379#msg3025379 date=1238371878]
You want as little obstruction as possible in the inlet path of the turbo. All that will do is get in the way.
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I was just thinking of when I've used canned air to clear out a computer's cooling fan.

When you blow straight on it, it spins.
When you blow with the blades, it spins faster.
 

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but does that mean the air is going through the blades faster? I would wager no, probably a great deal of that air in your example is simply bouncing off and not even going through. either way the more laminar the air the better that is for sure
 

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[quote author=budgy link=topic=140354.msg3025463#msg3025463 date=1238373316]
but does that mean the air is going through the blades faster? I would wager no, probably a great deal of that air in your example is simply bouncing off and not even going through. either way the more laminar the air the better that is for sure
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Well I agree turbulence is the enemy, but what about subtle fins inside the tubing to help it go around the bend?

I'm seriously considering finding some clear tubing and an old computer fan with something to measure RPM...
 

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[quote author=Cataphract_40 link=topic=140354.msg3025778#msg3025778 date=1238380741]
I was just about to mention laminar flow. Good on you.
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What about designing an oversize intake tube with laminar flow inserts inside? Then have a smaller tube on the outlet port going to the turbo for the laminar air to flow through.

I was also thinking you could follow the same theory and use the core of a FMIC kit as the laminar flow generator and then have it go into a tubular intake with a pyramid collector - split the flow into four sexy streams.

Granted, I'm over-engineering, but I think it'd be cool. What's everyone else think?
 

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[quote author=Mizzle link=topic=140354.msg3025821#msg3025821 date=1238382007]
[quote author=Cataphract_40 link=topic=140354.msg3025778#msg3025778 date=1238380741]
I was just about to mention laminar flow. Good on you.
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What about designing an oversize intake tube with laminar flow inserts inside? Then have a smaller tube on the outlet port going to the turbo for the laminar air to flow through.

I was also thinking you could follow the same theory and use the core of a FMIC kit as the laminar flow generator and then have it go into a tubular intake with a pyramid collector - split the flow into four sexy streams.

Granted, I'm over-engineering, but I think it'd be cool. What's everyone else think?
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Would be very cool

I wouldn't ever put one of those tornado things in any car. Those things are shit and made even worse. I would never trust the quality of those things.
 

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It's been proven they don't help NA cars. How do you figure it will help in a situation where there is more air in the equation?
 

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[quote author=Ryz link=topic=140354.msg3028392#msg3028392 date=1238466567]
It's been proven they don't help NA cars. How do you figure it will help in a situation where there is more air in the equation?
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MS3, not MZ3

I'm thinking:

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[turbo]==== all the other crap |laminar flow generator |=========[intake]
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Those things have been around for at least 10-12 years and I have seen tests in various import/hot rod/custom car and consumer report magazines on everything from a carbureted V-8, injected 4's, 6's and 8's turboed 4's and even diesels and not a single test showed any improvement at all.

If you really want to be the next test subject, all power to you get a before and after dyno run and let us know how it goes.
 

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[quote author=Byron link=topic=140354.msg3029248#msg3029248 date=1238512940]
Those things have been around for at least 10-12 years and I have seen tests in various import/hot rod/custom car and consumer report magazines on everything from a carbureted V-8, injected 4's, 6's and 8's turboed 4's and even diesels and not a single test showed any improvement at all.

If you really want to be the next test subject, all power to you get a before and after dyno run and let us know how it goes.
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*nods*

I'm also going to work with a friend on an equal-length stainless tubular intake manifold
 

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[quote author=Mizzle link=topic=140354.msg3028584#msg3028584 date=1238470791]
[quote author=Ryz link=topic=140354.msg3028392#msg3028392 date=1238466567]
It's been proven they don't help NA cars. How do you figure it will help in a situation where there is more air in the equation?
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MS3, not MZ3

I'm thinking:

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[turbo]==== all the other crap |laminar flow generator |=========[intake]
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Thats what I'm saying. The MS3 draws more air so there is that much more of an impediment.
 

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[quote author=Cataphract_40 link=topic=140354.msg3033615#msg3033615 date=1238650896]
Laminar flow refers to straight, even, non-turbulent airflow.
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Right.

Which is why I don't understand his comment.
 
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