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No chance ATL. The American/Canadian public sees an H ot T on the hood, they don't look anywhere else.

Sad but true.
 

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Looks like Honda and Toyota brain wash everyone. lol They got some kind of Jedi mind trick going on.
 

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I love how on the description of the Civic says "Powerful 127hp Engine"

Honestly, there comes a point when you have to stop making things look so good. I mean, it's 127 hp @ 6300 RPM. Come on... who in a honda is ever going to hit it that high? The majority of driving won't even experience 100hp, and that's in the top model.
 

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I am not okay with this idea you make of the CIVIC...

Don't forget that the CIVIC is a small, reliable and sporty car, low-end and low-cost car Honda build. It is made mainly for YOUNG people and did you forget that YOUNG people (under 30 mainly) goes to the cutoff of the engine at least 10 times a day? Why? Maybe to hear the sound of the cutoff... some others will say "7,500rpm is my life!".

-Frank
 

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I see tons of older people in civics all the time. But I just fail to see how the civic is a sporty car. The lower version doesn't come with a tach, only the top model comes with alloys, and it loses its reliability if you drive it at 6500rpm all the time.

One of the reasons the Civic is so reliable is because it's not a power machine. Since it has less power output it is able to maintain its integrity and produce excellent gas milage. Conversely, if an engine has 15000 horsepower and 10000 feet-pounds of torque, it's going to get horrible gas milage and it will have to be constantly maintained in order it to keep it working.

So in that respect, people should drive Civics like the small, reliable, low-end, low-cost cars they are, not like the sports cars they aren't. If you want a sports car... get a sports car! The Civic EX, the "sportiest" of the three models, starts at $17,260. There are a lot of other cars available in that price range. The 6i is only about grand more (base), and it's definately a lot sportier than the civic.
 

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I fail to see how a car with 1.7L I4, 127hp @ 6300 RPM, and 114 ft-lbs @ 4800RPM outperforms the 6i, even if it is a couple hundred pounds lighter. The torque alone doesn't lend itself to prompt acceleration. Is there something special about it that I'm totally missing, because what I'm seeing is that the 6i has more displacement, more power, and more torque through which to attain that power.

And I know the 6 isn't a sports car, but what I meant is it has a sportier feel and look compared to the Civic.
 

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No they haven't got that one :p

DX Styles (MSRP: $13,270 - $14,320)
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Which Civic are you talking about? The SI? Personally, I've never even seen one of these cars, so I can't say I have much the same problem as I do with the EX (people ricing them and racing them around), about which I was specifically speaking.
 

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so many civics!!!!!!! ROOOARR!! i see them like every 3 seconds on the main cross streets LITERALLY!!!
 
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