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Mods: TurboXS Downpipe, Intake, BOV and STOCK Catback

We haven't even tried to put the DTEC on this car to tune it at all.



The factory ecu is still in control of boost. If we raise the boost pressure and lean it out we are looking at some serious power. :shock:

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Those are some great numbers. what are the potential release dates for these porducts?
 

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Very nice gains. what type of intake are you using? a sr or ca? what is the diameter of the dp?
 

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why does it show flywheel power ??
 

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My guess is that its particular to the dyno their using - a dynapack, which states flywheel numbers, but are actually to the "wheels".

Dynapacks don't use in-ground roller devices like the more common dynojets. Instead, the wheels are taken off, and the hubs are bolted onto the mobile rollers, and then ran that way.

I'll wait for Jermaine to confirm that, though.

Regardless, as y'all know, it's the relative increases in power that are the real news we want to focus on! :)
 

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[quote author=Focused link=topic=66599.msg1143700#msg1143700 date=1168488161]


Dynapacks don't use in-ground roller devices like the more common dynojets. Instead, the wheels are taken off, and the hubs are bolted onto the mobile rollers, and then ran that way.

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But those mobile rollers have to be the same weight as the stock rims + tires right? otherwise there is no point if they weight nothing

His baseline numbers are "high" in comparison to other dynos done on the car.
http://www.mazda3forums.com/index.php?topic=66421.0

274lb/tq and 244whp seem higher than other magazines for example.. I remember one where they dynoed the car at like $250lb/tq and 230ish whp
 

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[quote author=CosmicBlueMS3 link=topic=66599.msg1143075#msg1143075 date=1168467809]
Very nice gains. what type of intake are you using? a sr or ca? what is the diameter of the dp?
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We are using Short Ram intake on these dyno tests. The diamter of the downpipe is 3 inches.

[quote author=TRU-BOOST link=topic=66599.msg1143547#msg1143547 date=1168483734]
why does it show flywheel power ??
[/quote]Dynapack's have the ability to calculate horsepower at the Flywheel. In the lower mid section of the dyno plots if this number is anything other than 1.00 it will correct horsepower based upon your proposed drive train loss. This is a feature we never use. So the number we post are always wheel horsepower. Also the dynapack is a load based dyno, so we can control how much load it put on a car. We can control how much load is being applied to the wheels to simulate a long 5 gear pull just like it would be on the highway. If you ever notice on a dynojet the dyno pull is often shorter than a real pull on the road. So if it takes a car 20 seconds to go 2k to redline in a set gear, we can simulate that on the dyno. Regardless of the peak numbers what we are highlighting here are the gains in horsepower which cannot be denied.

For comparison sake we always use the same dyno and only compare the numbers to that, but the AMS dyno does seem to read very close to ours which is acceptable.

Let's not forget to compare that the total gain from stock is 50.9 ft. lbs. and 47.3 whp peak and we have not tuned the car yet or turned up the boost at all.

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[quote [email protected] link=topic=66599.msg1144226#msg1144226 date=1168534054]
[quote author=CosmicBlueMS3 link=topic=66599.msg1143075#msg1143075 date=1168467809]
Very nice gains. what type of intake are you using? a sr or ca? what is the diameter of the dp?
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We are using Short Ram intake on these dyno tests. The diamter of the downpipe is 3 inches.

[quote author=TRU-BOOST link=topic=66599.msg1143547#msg1143547 date=1168483734]
why does it show flywheel power ??
[/quote]Dynapack's have the ability to calculate horsepower at the Flywheel. In the lower mid section of the dyno plots if this number is anything other than 1.00 it will correct horsepower based upon your proposed drive train loss. This is a feature we never use. So the number we post are always wheel horsepower. Also the dynapack is a load based dyno, so we can control how much load it put on a car. We can control how much load is being applied to the wheels to simulate a long 5 gear pull just like it would be on the highway. If you ever notice on a dynojet the dyno pull is often shorter than a real pull on the road. So if it takes a car 20 seconds to go 2k to redline in a set gear, we can simulate that on the dyno. Regardless of the peak numbers what we are highlighting here are the gains in horsepower which cannot be denied.

For comparison sake we always use the same dyno and only compare the numbers to that, but the AMS dyno does seem to read very close to ours which is acceptable.

Let's not forget to compare that the total gain from stock is 50.9 ft. lbs. and 47.3 whp peak and we have not tuned the car yet or turned up the boost at all.

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oh ok so even tho it says flywheel that is actually whp.. thanks!
 

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[quote [email protected] link=topic=66599.msg1144226#msg1144226 date=1168534054]
[quote author=CosmicBlueMS3 link=topic=66599.msg1143075#msg1143075 date=1168467809]
Very nice gains. what type of intake are you using? a sr or ca? what is the diameter of the dp?
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We are using Short Ram intake on these dyno tests. The diamter of the downpipe is 3 inches.

[quote author=TRU-BOOST link=topic=66599.msg1143547#msg1143547 date=1168483734]
why does it show flywheel power ??
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Let's not forget to compare that the total gain from stock is 50.9 ft. lbs. and 47.3 whp peak and we have not tuned the car yet or turned up the boost at all.

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thats all we need care about :D


I realize you may still be working out the details, but will the dp be made of SS and how will it connect?
 

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[quote author=CosmicBlueMS3 link=topic=66599.msg1144297#msg1144297 date=1168536616]

thats all we need care about :D


I realize you may still be working out the details, but will the dp be made of SS and how will it connect?
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The downpipe is complete and it is gone into production already. The design will be 3 inch mandrel bent stainless, bell-mouth at the turbocharger outlet. We also have our test pipe which will be 3 inch stainless as well. We are targeting some where in the $300 dollar range for the DP and $99 for the test pipe.

Thanks,

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[quote author=chisss link=topic=66599.msg1144237#msg1144237 date=1168534477]
oh ok so even tho it says flywheel that is actually whp.. thanks!
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No, think of it more as hub horsepower as there still no losses associated with the wheel inertia.
 

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[quote author=chisss link=topic=66599.msg1144237#msg1144237 date=1168534477]
oh ok so even tho it says flywheel that is actually whp.. thanks!
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No, think of it more as hub horsepower as there still no losses associated with the wheel inertia.
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[quote [email protected] link=topic=66599.msg1144484#msg1144484 date=1168542499]
[quote author=CosmicBlueMS3 link=topic=66599.msg1144297#msg1144297 date=1168536616]

thats all we need care about :D


I realize you may still be working out the details, but will the dp be made of SS and how will it connect?
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The downpipe is complete and it is gone into production already. The design will be 3 inch mandrel bent stainless, bell-mouth at the turbocharger outlet. We also have our test pipe which will be 3 inch stainless as well. We are targeting some where in the $300 dollar range for the DP and $99 for the test pipe.

Thanks,

[email protected]
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connects at the turbocharger... nice nice, for some reason I worried we would have to leave a peice of the stock dp at the turbo
gonna be impossible to get to, but thats what I wanted to hear

prices seem fair as well, thanks for the work you are doing for us.


last question for now.. do you sell direct or do we need to get in touch with an authorized dealer? thankfully one is within an hour from me.
 
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