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"The American Way"?
I'm a n00b, so please excuse my ignorance...
But is it me, or is the intake mani on the FRONT of the engine?
If that's the case I guess Mazda is going the same route as Toyota, Dodge, and others for the sake of cleaner emissions...?
This makes it a pain to mod the engine, add a turbo, etc.
But is it me, or is the intake mani on the FRONT of the engine?
If that's the case I guess Mazda is going the same route as Toyota, Dodge, and others for the sake of cleaner emissions...?
This makes it a pain to mod the engine, add a turbo, etc.
All inverted engines for the most part are done so the cats can be placed as close to the engine as possible. Some even as part of the exhaust mani.Frank said:
I'm supposing that's why Mazda did it to this engine.
This is actually a little beneficial for N/A engines because alot of heat is left far from the intake (towards the rear of the engine bay), makes intake pipes shorter for inproved throttle response, and makes headers/exhausts shorter and easier to produce. In a perfect world this would make aftermarket parts cheaper... But this aint no perfect world...
Unfortunately it makes it a pain to add a turbo to where it's most efficient, right next to the exhaust outlets. Sure, the SRT-4 and most RSX and Celica turbo kits have it there, but some kits also encounter problems with turbos heating up alot, and more risk of oil coking and turbo failure if a timer is not used.
Not to mention the added piping needed to make a complete round trip of the engine bay from the front (Cold Air), to the back (turbo), to the front again (IC), then to wherever the inlet is.... Can you say LAG? You'd need smaller piping or I/C in order to keep lag in check, hurting performance... The SRT-4 has almost a 1 second lag as it is... on a 2.4L engine with a not-so-big turbo...
I've been debatin on getting an MSP or waiting for the new 3... I think the MSP sounds better the more I think about it...
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2nd cheapest?
I was talking from an aftermarket standpoint. It's obvious that any car company will care more about emissions than the aftermarket. Buyers eventually wanting to modify their cars are the minority...dinu01 said:
Sure, buddy! Might as well go for an R34 while I'm pulling money out of my ass... Since you seem to think anyone can pull an extra 10-15k out of there, might as well keep pushin'... I love your logic! :roll:
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dinu01 said:
Frank said:
Frank answered exactly why I had forgotten about it
Although I remembered right after I posted my earlier comment.
Scorpion: Don't take everything so seriously. I'm assuming we're all pretty young on this forum and an RX-8 as appealing as it is, is just not in my (and most likely the majority of people's here) budget. I was just saying that while a pocket rocket Mazda3 Turbo is great, the odds of Mazda giving us one NOW is slim - in a year or two some MazdaSpeed version might just come along. Now they have to focus on getting the 3 out and solidifying their place in the Euro and NA markets.
Re: Mazda2
This is a world forum and in the Euro and Japanese market the 2/Demio is Mazda's smallest car. We have people from Europe that post here, so to them the 3 is the 2nd cheapest Mazda product.
And no I don't think we'll see the 2 in Canada, let alone in the bigger is better US...
This is a world forum and in the Euro and Japanese market the 2/Demio is Mazda's smallest car. We have people from Europe that post here, so to them the 3 is the 2nd cheapest Mazda product.
And no I don't think we'll see the 2 in Canada, let alone in the bigger is better US...
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