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Hey everyone, I'm still a noob at stick so I have some questions driving.

1.When I start the car in first gear and the rpms drop when the clutch is engaged, is that normal or bad?

2. How bad is it for the car (or what does it mess up) when the car stutters before it accelerates?

3. Is it me, or is it hard to feel the throttle response of the mazdaspeed 3?

thanks in advance
 

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1- rpms should not drop below idle. you should be giving it gas as you release the clutch or it may...
2- bog or stutter, sometimes called lugging the engine. yes, this can be harmful. it puts a lot of stress on the bottom end...rods and bearings.
3- ?
 

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1. It's not too bad to let the RPMs drop, but it just gets you really close to stalling the engine and that's just embarrasing at an intersection or something lol. You'll see the headlights start to dim as you approach the stall.
2. When it stutters that means it's approaching a stall, normally when I mess up and my car starts to buck like that, i just stab the clutch and let it get back to idle speed before trying to shift again. Sometimes people honk if I take my time when i mess up, but I think it's better to just take it slow and avoid misshifting or something.
3. I only have the 2.0 liter mazda and lol it doesn't even know the definition oif throttle response. But it makes less than 140 horsepower so whaddyagonnado? Not sure about the speed 3 though, I always figured it would be sharp
 

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:dur: How many threads are on these forums involving people buying MS3's when they don't know how to drive standard? It could be a very expensive education...

Best thing? Go to a local driving school - most have single lessons where they teach you to drive standard. It's much better (and cheaper) to learn on a driving school car and to be taught by somebody who knows how to teach.

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1 - I've noticed this as well on my MZ3, I think it's normal. (When I start the car, I put the car in neutral, let of the clutch, buckle in, adjust music, etc., then I engage the clutch to put it in gear, when I do this, I always notice a slight drop in the rpms from 1100 to around 950/1050 - it bounces back up if the clutch is left engaged)

2 - already answered

3 - throttle response is fine on my NA 2.3
 
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[quote author=Tim25 link=topic=135337.msg2914547#msg2914547 date=1233856268]
:dur: How many threads are on these forums involving people buying MS3's when they don't know how to drive standard? It could be a very expensive education...

Best thing? Go to a local driving school - most have single lessons where they teach you to drive standard. It's much better (and cheaper) to learn on a driving school car and to be taught by somebody who knows how to teach.

TIM

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That's why I only buy cars I know how to drive.

When I was car shopping, I always got talked into the 'oh, driving a stick is easy. I can teach you in this new car!'. Infact, I should have wised up and took those 'free lessons'.
 

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Geez you guys are so accusatory and unhelpful. I had only driven stick 4 or 5 times before I bought my Mazda 3 5 speed. It doesn't mean I destroyed it, maybe just a little higher than normal wear. He was just looking for tips, sometimes you need a little assurance when you're driving just to make yourself feel more confident when you're first starting out.

Good luck Frank!
 

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rev real high and let the clutch out, works every time.
 

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[quote author=allstockspeed3 link=topic=135337.msg2917685#msg2917685 date=1233945345]
rev real high and let the clutch out, works every time.
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Works even better with the traction control (DSC) off.

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Frank, welcome to the forums! Like you, I didn't know how to drive stick when I got my MS3....in fact, I tried to learn online before I went to the dealer so I could test drive the car without embarrassing myself :)

Don't get too worried about it. Practice sitting in a parking lot with the car started, put it in first, and let out the clutch SLOWLY SLOWLY SLOWLY until you hit the engagement point where you feel the car start to move, and hold it there....let the car roll for a while without giving it gas and then push the clutch all the way back in and brake to a stop. Do that over and over to get the feel for where the clutch engages in 1st. It'll take a few days to learn that without stalling the car...so give yourself plenty of time.

After you master the clutch engagement point, right after it starts to move the car, give the car some gas (just a little, not to the floor), as you SLOWLY let the clutch out all the way.

When I learned on my Speed3, I'd never driven stick before (I'm 29...always had auto cars), and all kinds of people told me "OMG YOURE GOING TO HURT IT".....I stalled it about 6 or so times starting in first over a day and a half, and then I got it down pretty good. Don't worry about hurting the car as long as you take it slow and you're careful. Don't rev to 5500 and let out the clutch...that will hurt it. But if you're being sensible, at slow speeds to learn, you won't really do any damage.

The most important thing is to practice in a place with no traffic. Nothing is worse than sitting at a red light with 20 people behind you beeping at you after you stall your car...so learn in a private parking lot where there's no pressure, so it's second nature to you when you're on the road.

To answer your 3 questions.....

1. When you start the car up, and have the clutch pressed in, with gear in first, as you let it out, the rpm's WILL drop as the clutch engages and tries to move the car....that is normal, no worries. The problem comes in if you keep letting the clutch out fast, without giving it any gas to compensate for the drop in rpm's as it engages. (That's what stalls the car)

2. Studdering? You mean right before the car stalls? That means the car doesnt have enough power (not giving it enough gas) to compensate for the amount you've let out the clutch...(You'll also see some studdering when you're driving in first gear and you let off the gas hard, the car will kind of jerk you back and forth a little bit)...

3. By throttle response do you mean where the clutch engages? I had a heck of a time figuring out that the slightest movements of my left foot caused the clutch to either be engaged fully, or not engaged. Throttle response for me is fine....especially in like 3rd gear at around 3k rpms, any little tap of the gas pedal pretty much will push you back in your seat.

Have fun learning! Be safe!
 

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Thank you all for your help, and the warm welcome. I'm definitely a lot better at driving now with some practice and knowledge.
 
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