lol. my choice of drivers hasn't been picked for the purpose of getting loud (although they are VERY capable of doing so), but rather, for all-out sq. the supremo tweets themselves are large format tweets and only come as a matched pair..the things have a 4" diameter. these are definitely going in kicks...or possibly custom dash pods if they'll fit. the seas lotus mids are highly praised by the diy home audio crowd as the most precise and transparent mid ever...and i must agree...the midrange is the best i have yet to hear in a car application.