Ok now...thanks for your unnecessary input. This has been discussed many times. This is a Mazda 3 board so if by M3 you think BMW, you're a moron. If not than you just want to be a smart ass. We don't like smart ass here for your info. :roll:TheMirror said:Yes, BMW's system is very very good.edgaress said:the M3 with sport shift was an easy choice (in addition to other factors).