Warranty is up, time to add some power. I've had the MSCAI since day one and that is the ONLY mod for the past 2 years and 36k miles- so the current thinking is either a dp or Cobb AP.
Which would you go with and why?
Downpipe:
The catted Cobb or CPE Dp has proven hp results, should give 20-40whp depending on who you believe, is a moderately challenging install and you hear a good bit about compromised turbo seals in conjunction with DP install. Sound like an accurate summary?
I considered a Corksport or TurboXS non catted set up(w/race pipe) but have inspection/emissions concerns for Pa state inspection. Does the diode and or spark plug fouler trick get a catless car through the OBDII scan?
Cobb AP:
Install doesn't get much easier than this. Offers a fair amount of different OTS maps to run. Offers datalogging and MIL clearing capabilities, very nice. What I can't really get my head around is what it does hp/tq wise for a nearly stock car. Cobb's published #s don't look that good to me(I'm from the VW/Audi world and those are so undertuned that software does ALOT for them-perhaps I'm jaded as a result).
Dread mentioned somewhere in another thread(I'm paraphrasing) that he thought that with the AP 1.03 maps, the Cobb AP was perhaps doing as much, or more, than a dp. Anyone else agree? Does AP improve the driveability? IE, it adjusts the cars attitude in more ways than just max hp and peak #s? Lots more "under the curve"?
So there are my ramblings, thoughts and a few question on dp vs AP. Which would you go with and why?
Which would you go with and why?
Downpipe:
The catted Cobb or CPE Dp has proven hp results, should give 20-40whp depending on who you believe, is a moderately challenging install and you hear a good bit about compromised turbo seals in conjunction with DP install. Sound like an accurate summary?
I considered a Corksport or TurboXS non catted set up(w/race pipe) but have inspection/emissions concerns for Pa state inspection. Does the diode and or spark plug fouler trick get a catless car through the OBDII scan?
Cobb AP:
Install doesn't get much easier than this. Offers a fair amount of different OTS maps to run. Offers datalogging and MIL clearing capabilities, very nice. What I can't really get my head around is what it does hp/tq wise for a nearly stock car. Cobb's published #s don't look that good to me(I'm from the VW/Audi world and those are so undertuned that software does ALOT for them-perhaps I'm jaded as a result).
Dread mentioned somewhere in another thread(I'm paraphrasing) that he thought that with the AP 1.03 maps, the Cobb AP was perhaps doing as much, or more, than a dp. Anyone else agree? Does AP improve the driveability? IE, it adjusts the cars attitude in more ways than just max hp and peak #s? Lots more "under the curve"?
So there are my ramblings, thoughts and a few question on dp vs AP. Which would you go with and why?