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Well, I finally took a dump and ordered the following audio stuff:
Focal

Focal

Polk

Polk


And I already received some of the hardware:


I was gonna build my own sub box, but I found this at BB:


But know I have questions for you bass monsters. Is this sub any good?:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage...t&productCategoryId=cat03081&id=1166840602951

I know BB recommends a sealed box - but after looking at a ton of subs I just dont want to spend $200 on one.

I want tight bass, and I've never really had a sub in my car - except for the bose POS under the seat now.
I listen to almost everything: classic rock, R&B, Blues, hip-hop (no gangsta crap though), even top 40 and easy listening, but mostly to hard rock/alternative.

Are there other good subs out there that are moderately priced? If I wanted to go the DVC route - what are the advantages and disadvantages, if any?

Thanx!
 

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With 500 watts on tap you need a good sub. YOu know one of the best subs I heard was one of those kicker square subs that came in a pretty small ported box that would fit behind the seat. That would absolutely slam on that amp. The dual voice coil model. in 4 ohm would pull the max out of your amp 500watts. still its 350 at 4 ohms so that may not even be necessary. If you really want to use that box something like an infinity perfect 10 would work, but dont expect It it too hit you out of the car. in a small sealed box.
 

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I'm guessing you're more of a quality-oriented person, based on the Focals. Here are some nice SQ subs:

Dayton Reference. This is the 'house brand' of Parts Express. Aluminum cone, shorting rings, cast basket, well vented motor. These are unbelievable subs for the money. They come in two versions: High Output and High Fidelity. The High Output versions don't actually have more output... but they work in smaller boxes. The High Fidelity are great for the car, but will take slightly larger boxes. Here are the 10" options... you can get 12" and 15" as well.

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=295-460
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=295-462

Peerless XXLS. Better than the Dayton, but probably not by much. The motor is designed a bit better. Paper cone on this one. For the money, I'd take the Dayton, but if you really want SQ this is a winner.

http://www.madisound.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi?cart_id=4264632.17804&pid=1787

DIYMA. This is only available in 12". It works in a ridiculously small box, but that of course means it's power hungry. 400w RMS or more is really nice. 23mm of excursion, so this will get louder than the above by a decent margin. Price is nice!

http://www.diymobileaudio.com/shop/...id=32&osCsid=cb9fb6c595992e19af03c4c6074b26de

Those are the first few that come to mind... hope that's helpful.
 

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[quote author=BetaB link=topic=71017.msg1247104#msg1247104 date=1172980302]
I am an image dynamics fan. You can slam this one into a tiny ass box (Build yr OWN!).

http://www.cardomain.com/item/IDSIDQ10D4V2

You get no warranty with this JL, but ikesound has always hooked me up with quality product.

http://www.ikesound.com/product-product_id/4194

I would not buy that kenwood if i were you.
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Good picks!

Here's another, but it's only available in 8 ohm so a pair might be in order. That might be a deal-breaker, but it's cheap. For in-car use, a 0.45 ft^3 net (per woofer) sealed and stuffed box would be perfect.

http://www.madisound.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi?cart_id=4264632.17804&pid=2194
 

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I'd also look at Focal for subs, they're very good for SQ and will complement for Focal speakersvery nicely. I find Focal subs don't have a pronounced sound signature either, which is great. They just blend in very effectively with all types of music. Check out the Polyglass range, although the best sub I've heard for SQ is the Focal 33KX, this baby will cost a lot more.
 

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Thanx for the replies.

The JL W6s are way out of my range, as are any of the Focals that come close to the specs of the amp.
The Daytons look like a possibility - now I have to see if I can find any reviews on them.

I did find a few JLs on woofersetc:
http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=2895

http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=5202

The W3V3 is a little pricey for me - I was hoping to spend $150 max, I know that wont get me the BEST sub, but since I dont want to rattle the windows, I would think I should be able to get a GOOD sub.

Also, what about these:
http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=2531

http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=2121

http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=4124

Or this guy from Polk - I saw it Brand new on ebay for $175 - again a little high, but it looks amazing, especially for that price.
http://www.polkaudio.com/caraudio/products/sr104svc/

Realistically - I think the Alpine, MB Quart, or the Polk Momo would be enough for me. I dont really want to go above 10" because I'd like to keep the box as small as I can. I want to (and need to) be able to use my trunk. Like I said this actually works for me because I dont want a sub that is too loud - but one that is detailed and gives just enough thump - which a small sealed box "should" accomplish - right?

I know all three brands are respectable - but of the three which would be the best. They are all similar in lower Hz response, the biggest difference I can see is the Alpine has DVC which will wring out the 500w from the amp. I have Polk home speakers, and a set of 6.5 coaxs in my other car - but I have heard that polk subs tend to be a little wimpy.

Again thanx for the input!
 

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i like the alpine type s more than the rest of those you just suggested, but they are all decent subs
 

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[quote author=myork link=topic=71017.msg1247951#msg1247951 date=1173035613]
Thanx for the replies.

The JL W6s are way out of my range, as are any of the Focals that come close to the specs of the amp.
The Daytons look like a possibility - now I have to see if I can find any reviews on them.

I did find a few JLs on woofersetc:
http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=2895

http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=5202

The W3V3 is a little pricey for me - I was hoping to spend $150 max, I know that wont get me the BEST sub, but since I dont want to rattle the windows, I would think I should be able to get a GOOD sub.

Also, what about these:
http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=2532

http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=2121

http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=4124

Or this guy from Polk - I saw it Brand new on ebay for $175 - again a little high, but it looks amazing, especially for that price.
http://www.polkaudio.com/caraudio/products/sr104svc/

Realistically - I think the Alpine, MB Quart, or the Polk Momo would be enough for me. I dont really want to go above 10" because I'd like to keep the box as small as I can. I want to (and need to) be able to use my trunk. Like I said this actually works for me because I dont want a sub that is too loud - but one that is detailed and gives just enough thump - which a small sealed box "should" accomplish - right?

I know all three brands are respectable - but of the three which would be the best. They are all similar in lower Hz response, the biggest difference I can see is the Alpine has DVC which will wring out the 500w from the amp. I have Polk home speakers, and a set of 6.5 coaxs in my other car - but I have heard that polk subs tend to be a little wimpy.

Again thanx for the input!
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Just make sure that if you're only getting one DVC sub, you should get one with dual 4 ohm VC's. If you get a single DVC sub with dual 2 ohm VC's, you will have to wire it in series for a 4 ohm load, as the Polk amp you have is only 2 ohm stable.
 

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i saw a JL w3 10inch on ebay for like 150 brand new

If you want to save some money and get something just as good if not better than the JL...

look at TC Sounds and Elemental Design subs... pretty cheap but have lots of brute force and are musical subs, not just air machines
 

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You don't need the rear speakers at all.

But I am jealous of the 165 V2, as they sound a bit better than my 165A Access drivers. I have a 10" Dayton Reference HF woofer in a box I built myself, and it is just fabulous for SQ. I don't thud-thud down the road, but just about anything I play on this system has a nice solid and very articulate bottom end.
 

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Are there other good subs out there that are moderately priced? If I wanted to go the DVC route - what are the advantages and disadvantages, if any?
eD 13Ov2. Monster bottom end for a 12" driver, overall very nice sq, and a 5 year warranty.

http://www.edesignaudio.com/edv2/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=35

I've also heard some wonderful things about the Phoenix Gold RDS12D. It's supposed to be a very capable SQ/SQL sub.

http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=17536

$129 shipped is a heck of a deal.
 

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[quote author=jonnyanalog link=topic=71017.msg1249184#msg1249184 date=1173103382]
I got my ascendant audio sub for $50 plus shipping. They have good support and great prices. Plus the products are BUILT.

http://www.ascendantaudio.com/
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cant buy anything from that site... i just went to check out to see what they make... they are in limbo right now
 

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There are no sonic advantages to dual voice coils. However, a speaker with dual voice coils can usually handle more total power, especially when they have two separate motors rather than two voice coils inside the same gap.

It certainly is a lot easier and cost effective to look for a single voice coil woofer. My dayton HF (Partsexpress.com) woofer is 4 ohm, single voice coil. You can save considerable money by using less expensive amps, too. I am driving my Dayton sub with a $99 (including shipping) Profile Baja amp, and it is doing a fabulous job.
 

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[quote author=myork link=topic=71017.msg1247951#msg1247951 date=1173035613]
The Daytons look like a possibility - now I have to see if I can find any reviews on them.
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Ask and ye shall receive.

http://diymobileaudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1953

http://diymobileaudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=841&highlight=dayton

DIY Mobile Audio is a pretty neat site. Npdang does quite a bit of testing on drivers; it's a bit much at first, but after a while you can read the results pretty well. I will say that the test data I've seen on the Daytons is pretty darn impressive. The Peerless are a bit better, but you pay a premium. The JL Audio W6v2 is really impressive, but it's more than twice the price. Bang for the buck, you won't find a better SQ driver than the Dayton Ref, period.
 

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Ive messed with Daytons, they do take a beating and wont break the bank. Way back when I used to weekly order partsexpress.com stuff to build alot of test enclosures and home audio stuff- Daytons and Eminence were always used (dont remember which series but at lest the 60$ range)but I have yet to put one in a trunk although I used their raw cast frame PA 15's once in a Tahoe for a beach scene, 2000 watts of old PPI (before they went to shit). Someone tried to bust them, Brass Monkey never sounded so good...haha.

SO yeah, Dayton quality +1.
 
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