[wolverine_man]

I have been looking to get a mild drop and I understand these two springs sets are very similar if not the same. I can purchase the Mazdaspeed kit with non-adjustable cambers for $375 or I could go with the Pro-Kit for $195 and get the Eibach cambers for $155 pr. Not much of a difference in price. I believe the Eibach cambers are adjustable, though. Anyone have any opiniions? Does it come down to color, red vs. black? Drops are supposed to be the same, right?

 

[mazda3owner13]

I went the MS kit route a while back until I decided to go lower and on better shocks and struts. IMHO the pro-kit and the SPC/Eibach cambers would be the better choice. Mainly, because the SPC cambers are adjustable and the MS kit ones arn't. It just all depends on, if you want that adjustablilty.
I'm sure you can get the prokit for cheaper then 195 too.

There's the other augument of...Keeping your warrenttee or the dealers blaming it on the non-Mazda parts.

The drops are supose to be the same. Color? Who cares, it's under the car.

 

[john_in_the_lbc]

red springs with koni yellows look sick :drool:

 

[wolverine_man]

Yeah, i realize that you can't really see the springs; I was being facetious. I guess it comes down to the advantages of having adjustable cambers, which I am unsure of. Perhaps it's that they allow you to go with lower springs in the future? I do plan on going with Koni Yellows, though, when my stock shocks give out (currently 16k miles on them). My calipers are red too, hmmm. Yellow and red sounds like Ronald McDonald to me, though. lol

 

[twistedclown]

red parts add +10 HP

 

[wolverine_man]

I do like me some red on a gray ride. lolz :lol: So I take it adjustable cambers are better though? I mean, I presume that the MS Accessory ones are somewhat adjustable as well in order to adjust the camber but not like the Eibach and SBC ones, which should accommodate different springs?? I might just get the Pro-Kit and see where my specs are and then get the cambers when I have a bit more funds. Though, I can see the tire shop doing an alignment and saying I need a camber kit which they'll conveniently sell me. Had this happen to me on my Corrado.

 

[john_in_the_lbc]

The MS accessory camber links are not adjustable. The are just slightly longer to adjust the geometry for the lower stance to allow the camber to be in spec.
The SBC ones allow adjustment for more or less camber as desired..and will allow suspension lowered more than 1.5-2" to be brought into spec.

 

[wolverine_man]

That's basically what I thought. Probably going the pro-kit route and eventually adjustable camber links because if I ever get outta Michigan or purchase a winter vehicle, I may want to go lower than a pro-kit. Not advisable, though, with the snow we get in the mitten state.

 

[mazda3owner13]

Coilovers are great. If you want to lower for good weather you can. If you want to raise the car for the snow you can.

Best of both worlds.

 

[skhte]

I got the MS accessories springs and I love it. THe drop is nice, the ride is only slightly stiffer then stock (in my opinion). I did a lot of research and it was either MS accessories or pro kit, the only reason why I went with mazdaspeed is because I bought them off a member on this forum for a very nice price. Apart from that, I would of been dropped on pro kits.

If you are interested on the drop check out my car in the multimedia section, my thread is "My Galaxy Gray 3"

 

[manny]

[quote author=Mazda3Owner13 link=topic=135996.msg2930690#msg2930690 date=1234406175]
Coilovers are great. If you want to lower for good weather you can. If you want to raise the car for the snow you can.

Best of both worlds.
[/quote]
lol is this the thread you decided to use your once a month post on?

i don't wanna be a troll, lol but i actually bought the mazdaspeed suspension from him ^ and ran it for a while. The ride was great but i am going to be starting up autox this season and i knew that setup wouldn't cut it, check the sig for what i'm running now. As he recommended earlier, go with pro-kit/koni fsd and spc camber links. It'll probably be cheaper and the performance will practically be the same.

 

[redviolin167]

yeah i went ms route and they're good thats for sure. i dont see why you would want to adjust your cambers though? as long as its correct you're good to ride. imean unless you're gonna lower more in the future, and you dont want to rub. then adjust you know?

 

[wolverine_man]

[quote author=skHTE link=topic=135996.msg2930746#msg2930746 date=1234407321]
I got the MS accessories springs and I love it. THe drop is nice, the ride is only slightly stiffer then stock (in my opinion). I did a lot of research and it was either MS accessories or pro kit, the only reason why I went with mazdaspeed is because I bought them off a member on this forum for a very nice price. Apart from that, I would of been dropped on pro kits.

If you are interested on the drop check out my car in the multimedia section, my thread is "My Galaxy Gray 3"
[/quote]

I just read your post. Wow, your front did look pretty dang low! Do you think bending your rim had something to do with the car being lowered? I would think it would be the severity of the pothole and or your shocks/struts. I might be leaning toward getting the pro kit and adding the camber kit shortly after in a separate purchase to save a little cash since I'll be paying in this year on my taxes.

 

[skhte]

i never bent any of my rims also the car looks way lower in the picture then reality, i think its the angle of the picture. But i never had any problems with any speed bumps, driveways etc.

 

[john_in_the_lbc]

This is MazdaSpeed accessory springs with oem wheels and tires.

 

[wolverine_man]

Nice ride and pic! Working on a deal right now with a different forum's member. Used pro-kit that's been on his car one month before changing them out. If I go new, I'll probably go MS.

 

[halo0]

can't believe nobody has mentioned that MS spring kit is NOT the same drop as pro kit. MS is about half an inch and pro kit is about 1.2". if u are staying with 17 inch wheels then MS is fine but with 18s and 40 series tires at least a pro kit sized drop is needed IMHO.

 

[redviolin167]

that is incorrect. he is talking about ms ACCESSORY springs. which are identical to pro-kit. I use them and it is exactly the same.

 

[halo0]

[quote author=redviolin167 link=topic=135996.msg2934290#msg2934290 date=1234539992]
that is incorrect. he is talking about ms ACCESSORY springs. which are identical to pro-kit. I use them and it is exactly the same.
[/quote]

Oooooooooooh. Sorry, my bad

 

[wolverine_man]

Yes, the MS Accessory. Mazda really should have come up with a different name for their mod accessories. geesh. And unfortunately, I will be using my stocker 17" flakes until I have enough saved for some nice rims (i.e. Advan RS in Gunmetal) Even then, I will still get 17". So, from what I can tell, it really comes down to adjustable camber vs non-adjustable, as the price is not much different. Since I am not going to drop my 3 any lower in the future, I guess I will go with whatever I can get a better price on.