The turbo on this sucker is loud. I think it may have some circulation issues, which would attribute to the noise. I've not noticed it myself, but i'll try and listen to it closer when i go home tonight. It'd -10000000 out here, so it ought to do it if it's going to do it.
MazdaSpeed 3 in cold weather?
I just purchased a Cosmic Blue Mica MazdaSpeed 3. So far it is a very different experience for me. I traded in a 2002 Subaru WRX and I am still getting used to all of the differences. (For another post)
My question is this. I have been driving in this super cold weather we have on the East coast (10-20 degrees F). I do give the car a minimum of 5mins to warm up and cool down but the water temp gauge never moves until I actually start driving. What concern me are the strange noises that I hear when I start driving.
I hear these whinny noises as I give it gas. I assume it is the turbo but I had a turbo for years and this is nothing like the sound the WRX made. It seems to go away some when the car has driven a few miles but it still seems strange to me.
Anybody else hearing these strange sounds? I make sure to try and keep it under 3K RPMs until the noises go away some and the water temp gauge is at normal.
My question is this. I have been driving in this super cold weather we have on the East coast (10-20 degrees F). I do give the car a minimum of 5mins to warm up and cool down but the water temp gauge never moves until I actually start driving. What concern me are the strange noises that I hear when I start driving.
I hear these whinny noises as I give it gas. I assume it is the turbo but I had a turbo for years and this is nothing like the sound the WRX made. It seems to go away some when the car has driven a few miles but it still seems strange to me.
Anybody else hearing these strange sounds? I make sure to try and keep it under 3K RPMs until the noises go away some and the water temp gauge is at normal.
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Get some nice winter tires. Summer tires suck in winter there are a few posts about people and there winter tires.
its looking more and more like they didnt test this car in the cold so much. i havent noticed any difference in engine sound, but there are threads out there about both the cold weather CEL and the cold-weather clunking sound in the suspension.
Yeah, mine did this really disconcerting thing today too. As soon as I figure it out, i'll let everyone know. Bottom line, this wasn't meant to be a year-round car.
let us know in here too, or link the new thread or something. i dont get to check recent topics as much as id like, and i sure as heck wanna know what it is thats got you worried.
Ok now you guys have me scared. I purchased this car as my only car so it better be able to work year round. I don't mind a few noises if they are associated with the cold as long as nothing bad is happening or nothign is wrong with the car.
But this whinning noise does concearn me cause when I first got the car it was not all that cold out and I heard thsi funny whining noise. It actually sort of sounds like a cop car syrin a little bit. TI is really odd. Does anybody else here this?
IT seems to go away after I drive for a while.
I don't know. I feel good that I al the least have a warranty liek the rest of you. But I don't want to have to use it and I don't want anyhting to be wrong with my car. Keep me in the loop on this guys and let me knwo what you find out and what you hear and what you experience.
BTW- I have heard the clunkign noise in the suspension when it is cold out.
But this whinning noise does concearn me cause when I first got the car it was not all that cold out and I heard thsi funny whining noise. It actually sort of sounds like a cop car syrin a little bit. TI is really odd. Does anybody else here this?
IT seems to go away after I drive for a while.
I don't know. I feel good that I al the least have a warranty liek the rest of you. But I don't want to have to use it and I don't want anyhting to be wrong with my car. Keep me in the loop on this guys and let me knwo what you find out and what you hear and what you experience.
BTW- I have heard the clunkign noise in the suspension when it is cold out.
Are you guys past your breakin period???????????
Because if not, then hold off on the reviews till after.
Because if not, then hold off on the reviews till after.
i am. and i havent yet found anything that would prevent me from driving all year round. in fact, i dont have another option. minor annoyances, but nothing more, and as soon as i get the CEL fixed, all that will be left is the clunking noise. its a performance car, it can have its cold-weather quirks.
i have got to get winter tires though. the drive home today was terrifying.
i have got to get winter tires though. the drive home today was terrifying.
Ok but what about all the talk about the transmission/motor mounts that are breakign on people's cars???
I wish in a way that I have never read abotu it last night. YOu can find a bunch of posts on this fourm about it with pictyures to boot. I was so worked up last night I had trouble sleeping. It makes me very very worried and at the same time somewhat angry because there are 4 known cases of this happening just on this board. In reality there very well may be more cases out there and when you think about it they are only bringing 5000 cars to the US this year so to have that many with issues is a dissapoinment.
What is worse is the fact that there is no TSB out on this yet or better yet a recall to get this issue fixed since it is more than an annoyance or a small issue it is a huge issue with huge importance.
I am startign to think maybe I should have kept the Subaru WRX even with its funny sounds. I may have needed to thrrow soem money itno gettign it fixed up but at least I was nto worried about a catostrophic event like a motor mount failing.
I wish in a way that I have never read abotu it last night. YOu can find a bunch of posts on this fourm about it with pictyures to boot. I was so worked up last night I had trouble sleeping. It makes me very very worried and at the same time somewhat angry because there are 4 known cases of this happening just on this board. In reality there very well may be more cases out there and when you think about it they are only bringing 5000 cars to the US this year so to have that many with issues is a dissapoinment.
What is worse is the fact that there is no TSB out on this yet or better yet a recall to get this issue fixed since it is more than an annoyance or a small issue it is a huge issue with huge importance.
I am startign to think maybe I should have kept the Subaru WRX even with its funny sounds. I may have needed to thrrow soem money itno gettign it fixed up but at least I was nto worried about a catostrophic event like a motor mount failing.
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You're going to have to accept that a MS3 and a WRX are very different under the hood, and you're likely to hear things that you've never heard before. There's nothing wrong with your car. Even IF there were a problem (which I don't believe there is) you have a full warranty backing you up. Just be realistic about the way you drive until the oil gets warm. Turbo bearings have extremely tight clearances and oil that's been thickened by cold temps doesn't flow as well. They're getting oil...but they're cold. Give a car a break.
If the MS3 has the same electric steering system as the MZ3, you may be hearing that as well...my steering pump whined loudly when the car was cold and went away as I drove. Again, it's cold - and not broken in yet.
If the MS3 has the same electric steering system as the MZ3, you may be hearing that as well...my steering pump whined loudly when the car was cold and went away as I drove. Again, it's cold - and not broken in yet.
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i am. and i havent yet found anything that would prevent me from driving all year round. in fact, i dont have another option. minor annoyances, but nothing more, and as soon as i get the CEL fixed, all that will be left is the clunking noise. its a performance car, it can have its cold-weather quirks.
i have got to get winter tires though. the drive home today was terrifying.
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Agreed. I did the same drive and it was pins and needles the whole way. Nice and sticky when it's dry tho....
i am. and i havent yet found anything that would prevent me from driving all year round. in fact, i dont have another option. minor annoyances, but nothing more, and as soon as i get the CEL fixed, all that will be left is the clunking noise. its a performance car, it can have its cold-weather quirks.
i have got to get winter tires though. the drive home today was terrifying.
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Agreed. I did the same drive and it was pins and needles the whole way. Nice and sticky when it's dry tho....
No I hear you on that. I can deal with the sounds so long as they are not obvious bad sounds. I figured that some of the sounds might be due to the cold temperatures as well as to the fact that it is a different car with a different turbo in it. Sounds are a minor thing in my book- that is why we have a radio.
However I am very concerned about all the reading I have done on the CELs that are showing up and I am even more concerned about the motor mount issue. As for the CELs it seems like they have figure out the issue from what I have read and it looks like Mazda may actually be coming out with a new part to fix the problem. Granted it is a hassle but it seems to be a minor issue from what people have said.
The motor mount failures I have read about are another thing entirely. This to me is a super scary thing and I can't even believe that this is happening to people. I don't know all the details only what I have read on this forum. But for mounts to fail in any way shape or form is horrible and scary. This item is something that Mazda should be offering a recall on and they should do it ASAP. However with all the reading I have done I have not seen anybody mention any fixes or TSB or recalls. Heck from what I have read it appears Mazda is not even recognizing this as an issue yet.
I know I have a warranty but at the same time I don't want to have the car in the shop constantly nor do I want something major to break on the car especially if it is avoidable. But what can I do? What are you guys doing?
However I am very concerned about all the reading I have done on the CELs that are showing up and I am even more concerned about the motor mount issue. As for the CELs it seems like they have figure out the issue from what I have read and it looks like Mazda may actually be coming out with a new part to fix the problem. Granted it is a hassle but it seems to be a minor issue from what people have said.
The motor mount failures I have read about are another thing entirely. This to me is a super scary thing and I can't even believe that this is happening to people. I don't know all the details only what I have read on this forum. But for mounts to fail in any way shape or form is horrible and scary. This item is something that Mazda should be offering a recall on and they should do it ASAP. However with all the reading I have done I have not seen anybody mention any fixes or TSB or recalls. Heck from what I have read it appears Mazda is not even recognizing this as an issue yet.
I know I have a warranty but at the same time I don't want to have the car in the shop constantly nor do I want something major to break on the car especially if it is avoidable. But what can I do? What are you guys doing?
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If it were me.....I've do a periodic visual check on the mount. Someone here found his to be loose, which probably prevented a highway mishap for him. In addition, when I take it in for routine maintenance (or maybe just my first oil change) I'd ask them to inspect that mount for security, and attempt to talk them into putting a little thread locker on the bolts. Not sure that will prevent the problem, but it might slow it down. Be pro-active...don't wait for your engine to fall. Sometimes carmakers can be slow to respond to their issues, so take charge of your vehicle yourself (as much as you can). I know it's a pain, but it seems that all new cars are coming to us with their own unique issues, and the MS3 isn't immune. Items that need actual diagnosis, of course have to be left to the dealership to fix...but loose bolts are something you can actually check on yourself....if you like and wish to keep the car.
Eh, i'll make the dealer check it out. It's under warranty, they'll fix it if it's a problem, and if it is, they have it on record that their techs checked it. Or, i'll replace it with an AWR mount and be done with it, because I KNOW it'll be tight then.
this isnt the same mount that the AWR mount replaces i dont believe. the mount in question is under the battery box, the AWR mount goes at the front crossmember.
im in the group buy for the AWR mount, but im nervous they'd point to that if something were to happen to my stock mount. i was told with the extended warranty i got, they "could find a cat in my engine and they'd still fix it." but... i dont trust people selling me things.
im in the group buy for the AWR mount, but im nervous they'd point to that if something were to happen to my stock mount. i was told with the extended warranty i got, they "could find a cat in my engine and they'd still fix it." but... i dont trust people selling me things.
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Yeah..I'd take that statement with a grain of salt. Extended warranty normally means they are just covering the same stuff for a longer time....although the extended warranty on my Altima included free rental cars, where the basic warranty did not. But I can't suggest cramming a cat into the intake. 
Poor cat..... Eh, in any event, I paid for the damn thing. Mazda can fix it for me.
no worries, the ms3 is a little grumpy in the morning, just it's way to say hello.
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If it were me.....I've do a periodic visual check on the mount. Someone here found his to be loose, which probably prevented a highway mishap for him. In addition, when I take it in for routine maintenance (or maybe just my first oil change) I'd ask them to inspect that mount for security, and attempt to talk them into putting a little thread locker on the bolts. Not sure that will prevent the problem, but it might slow it down. Be pro-active...don't wait for your engine to fall. Sometimes carmakers can be slow to respond to their issues, so take charge of your vehicle yourself (as much as you can). I know it's a pain, but it seems that all new cars are coming to us with their own unique issues, and the MS3 isn't immune. Items that need actual diagnosis, of course have to be left to the dealership to fix...but loose bolts are something you can actually check on yourself....if you like and wish to keep the car.
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Yes and no. See as I see it this is a new car and I should nto have to check on things and look under the hood a bolts. Yeah I should make sure the oil level is ok every now and then adn that other fluids are at the proper levels but I should nto have to remove items to look at bolts for fear they might be loose. The car should not have issues liek that in the first place and if they do then they shoudl be fixed ASAP. I have never purchased a car and had to keep an eye on specific items for fear that the engine might fall out. That is jsut insane.
It is the dealerships job to fix it and the company's job to make the issue known. Why is it takign so long for that to happen. We know of 4 cars on this board that have had this problem not to mention there may be many others that have been affected as well.
I understand a fix might take a little time and they may have to figure out the best way to fix the issue but at the same time you woudl think that we would hear a fix was on the way or that the issue was being looked at. however from what I read Mazda is not even lookign itno this as a problem... It makes me mad...
If it were me.....I've do a periodic visual check on the mount. Someone here found his to be loose, which probably prevented a highway mishap for him. In addition, when I take it in for routine maintenance (or maybe just my first oil change) I'd ask them to inspect that mount for security, and attempt to talk them into putting a little thread locker on the bolts. Not sure that will prevent the problem, but it might slow it down. Be pro-active...don't wait for your engine to fall. Sometimes carmakers can be slow to respond to their issues, so take charge of your vehicle yourself (as much as you can). I know it's a pain, but it seems that all new cars are coming to us with their own unique issues, and the MS3 isn't immune. Items that need actual diagnosis, of course have to be left to the dealership to fix...but loose bolts are something you can actually check on yourself....if you like and wish to keep the car.
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Yes and no. See as I see it this is a new car and I should nto have to check on things and look under the hood a bolts. Yeah I should make sure the oil level is ok every now and then adn that other fluids are at the proper levels but I should nto have to remove items to look at bolts for fear they might be loose. The car should not have issues liek that in the first place and if they do then they shoudl be fixed ASAP. I have never purchased a car and had to keep an eye on specific items for fear that the engine might fall out. That is jsut insane.
It is the dealerships job to fix it and the company's job to make the issue known. Why is it takign so long for that to happen. We know of 4 cars on this board that have had this problem not to mention there may be many others that have been affected as well.
I understand a fix might take a little time and they may have to figure out the best way to fix the issue but at the same time you woudl think that we would hear a fix was on the way or that the issue was being looked at. however from what I read Mazda is not even lookign itno this as a problem... It makes me mad...
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