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I've been trying to find evidence that relates the Mazda FL-22 coolant to Ford's Motorcraft fluids. And succeeded recently, so I compiled the information and share it with the board.

FL-22 is only available at Mazda dealers, and is only available in 55/45 diluted version. (Part number is 0000-77-508E-20). Mazda labeled it as "extended life". The regular green is labeled as "long life" (confusing, isn't it?), part number is 0000-77-501E-02, and is available only in concentrate.

FL-22, as in diluted version, is identical to Motorcraft Specialty Green, Ford part number VC-10-A.
The concentrated version was introduced later by Ford, part number is VC-10-A2.

Evidence is in Ford communication to dealers, see page 1 of the attachment. Page 2 is additional document.

Now we have a cost-effective coolant to FL-22 (Ford has lower price), and more importantly, we have a choice of diluted and pure.
 

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Nice sleuthing skills, that's very useful. I personally opted to flush all my fluid out and replace it with PEAK extended life because I didn't want to be chained to the dealer for their costly FL-22... but this is probably a better solution for most owners. Thanks :)
 

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Thanks. The premixed version (VC-10-A) costs little over $15, and concentrated is below $22. These are today's quote from a Ford dealer. Mazda dealers charge ~$23 for the premixed (aka FL-22). I like to use the concentrated to do a complete exchange with distilled water.

I also tracked down the automatic transmission fluid, the Mazda M-V or M5, it turned out Ford has the identical fluid since Ford shares a 5-speed ATX with Mazda on Fusion, part number is XT-9-QMM5, only cheaper. For those who want to DIY ATX fluid exchange, it comes handy.

Enjoy.
 

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How much is the Ford coolant? A local Mazda dealer carries the FL-22 for ~$11.50/jug.
 

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[quote author=colnago1331 link=topic=173495.msg3673938#msg3673938 date=1274907533]
How much is the Ford coolant? A local Mazda dealer carries the FL-22 for ~$11.50/jug.
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Wow, the dealer in my area (upstate NY) charges twice as much for FL22. Ford asks for about $15. Where do you live? Are you sure that's the price for FL22?
 

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http://ricartmazdaparts.com/

Put "0000-77-508E-20" in the box under "Search by Part Number or Keyword" and select Mazda from the drop-down menu. They're local to me so I buy it online and then go pick it up to save the shipping charge. And it's definitely FL-22 as there are three jugs in my garage for when I was going to do my RX-8.
 

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Thanks, Colnago1331. You sure are living in a good place. Maybe you can open an ebay account just selling the FL22. Next time I go to Ohio, I'll fly some back ;-) They charge $10 shipping.
 

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fl-22 is just a more expensive longer lasting type of coolant. Lasts 10 years or 100,000 miles. They started filling 2007 and up mazda 3's with the FL-22 coolant. 2004-2006 have regular coolant, which lasts 2 years or 30,000 miles.

I have a 2007 and I drained all my fl-22 and have been running straight up distilled water in the summers and regular coolant at a 65:35 coolant to water ratio in the winter, no issues using it.

So no, it won't make fl-22
 

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ok, i have a 09 sport hatch, did a complete flush today with the concentrate (p/n 0000-77-501E-02). wondering if thats ok since i had a fl-22 sticker on my reservoir.

note; the way i flushed it out was by just draining the coolant in the radiator, filled it up with distilled water, ran it till everything was well mixed, drained it and did this 3 times till it was running clear and filled it up with 1 gallon of the concentrate. so im running about 50/50 mix right now.
 

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The Mazda premix is 55% coolant, as opposed to the usual 50%. My dealer's parts department told me they have a policy to match online prices from other Mazda dealers. So, if you can find it online for less maybe your local dealership will do the same.
 

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what i am asking is if it's okay to run the concentrate coolant rather than the fl-22 in my 09 mazda. im not talking about price.

i am already tracking that the concentrate will have to be flushed out sooner than fl-22 and i am more than happy to do it every so often with no problem at all.
 

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thanks boss

edit: i missed your 2nd paragraph in your #11 post about how you drained all your fl-22, running distilled in the summer and 65:35 radio in the winter with no problems at all.
 

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Got a gallon of the Motorcraft specialty coolant last week. Still looking for time to flush system and add new.

Since I am stalling, I will go ahead and buy new hoses and thermostat housing.



* * * Off subject * * *

Any opinions on t-stat housings?
Stant at Pep Boys is roughly $40, but I recall liking the way the gasket fit in the housing and seemed to have a "profile" of an o-ring as the Beck Arnley I found for $26 had a cheaper looking flat edge gasket and it was starting to twist, making a possible failure if not straightened out before installing. (the B-A was made in Israel. Can't remember where Stant's version was made.) Back to Pep-boys for a closer look and maybe a stop at O'reilly's to look at the Murray version . . . Mazda wants $70 for theirs, so after market of some sort it will be!
 

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Looking to do this in the near future. What hoses did you go with? It seems that only Duralast is available for the 'u' hose, where Gates and Goodyear are available for the lower hose. What did you do on the thermostat?
 
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