on teh rx8club.com site, SCed 8's are being worked on and may come out as early as 05 or 06. I like reading the forum over there as well. The people there are true enthusiasts about their cars. This board is goin to rock as well once the Mz3 starts to sell. I like how the Rx8 owners are giving props to the 3 as well, they all say that its a hot car. I remember one post where this guy is trying to get his wife to sell their old minivan to get a 3, so he can have a tit grey Rx8 and tit grey mz3 in the garage