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Installed Osram Silvestar Hi & Low beams (10 Pictures!)

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super super easy to install.
the coverage & light output over stock is AMAZING.
super super clean white light with a very very slight blueish tint.
i took 10 pictures using my 4MP casio exlim mounted on a tripod with various exposure settings will with tungsten white balance to provide the truest colour look.

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bulbs cost $19.98 apiece. however, i did get the low-beams in a double pack for $38.98. all told i spent about $80.

the fog lights are the stock bulbs. they do not make a silverstar replacement for the foglights. i am thinking about picking up a pair of hoen's though. the stock bulbs were really white to begin with, but they have a terrible throw.

honestly, it took about 10 minutes to change all 4 bulbs after looking over the sticky how-to on the forums.

because the stock bulbs were nowhere nearly as bright, these are aimed a little too low as it stands. i need to tweak the height of the lamps just a little bit before i am 100% happy. however, the coverage over stock is amazing!

the low beams are MUCH wider. the highs are intense and really brighten the driving line. the overall puritiy of the light is amazing. i would venture to say this is the closest to HID you're going to find in a halogen bulb.

as i have been typing this i just decided to go take more pictures while it is daylight out. i will do that then edit this post again.
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That's very nice!

But i wish you had taken pictures before you worked on the second side.. so there's a comparison.

How much did the bulbs cost you?
wow..i didn't know the osram silverstar are that white... did you change your fog lights as well? cause that looks really white too... maybe it's just your white balance?
my slyvania silverstars are definitely not that blue white...white maybee...
Those look awesome! How much did you spend?
just edited the original post to clear things up for you guys.
i am going to take some daylight pictures now. . .
ok, someone please help me out, there are replacement bulbs for our headlights? what are the sizes and where can i get them? please help! thanks
itsjusme51
i have osram silverstars and they are nowhere near that blue

my pics: http://photos.yahoo.com/urrheb/

Low Beam: Osram Silverstars
High Beam: Philips Blue Vision

where did u get urs?
turtle said:
i have osram silverstars and they are nowhere near that blue

my pics: http://photos.yahoo.com/urrheb/

Low Beam: Osram Silverstars
High Beam: Philips Blue Vision

where did u get urs?
wow, how come there's such a big difference between the two
I think it's the white balance and the time of exposure.
photo realism & halogen vs. HID -- important considerati

the white balance is correct across all of the photos that you see. the exposures were all bracketed and i selected a few of the best. i took all of the shots with a 4MP camera mounted on a tripod. exposure times were from 2 full seconds all the way to 1/400.

honestly, to get a true picture of the light these lamps produce i'd need to mount my camera to the dash and find myself a pitch black road.

however, if you take look the the first photo you'll get a good feel for what you will see in real life.



take a look at the bottom right corner. see the white parking line? the color on it is correct. now, take a look at the sidewalk. you'll see the lights shining onto the pavement is in fact hardly blue at all. what you are seeing from the headlight housings on the other pictures is a photographic representation of the actual light.

since the ambient light sources in some of the photographs wash out the true colour of the headlamps, an adjustment of the white balance was made. i used a whitecard to manually set the white balance on my camera. since the main light source was actually tungsten street lamps, the whitebalance isn't the same as you'd get with your eyes in the same situation. obviously since the camera is now working as an eye, we're seeing something slightly different than normal. add to this mix the fact that the light is being filtered through the headlight housing and then through the cameras optics, there are truly a lot of variables to be delt with. also, monitor calibration? yeah. . .there are a LOT

yadayadayada, i could go on and on about trying to get true colour in photographs from multiple light sources. i do appologize for the confusion, but i will assure you that the lights are amazing. although they do not appear QUITE as blue as they seem in these photographs the hue does has a slight blueish tint to it. the light projecting from the housing & then reflected off of whatever surface the lamps happen to be pointing is about the truest white i have ever seen in a halogen bulb.

to sum all of this up for people just looking to know what the deal with these bulbs is, they are white as you can get without switching over to HID. the blue from these lamps is minimal, so if you want the blueish look of HID ( another optical illusion -- you will find a very good post on this forum about how your eyes are tricked ) you really ought to consider upgrading to HID.

considering the cost vs. the effect produced you will get more bang for your buck with these bulbs. coverage over the stock halogen is greatly improved both in throw and side to side coverage. the clarity of light is much more true to life. when driving through city lights on my way home in the rain last night, whatever the lamps shined upon was lit with a true representation of what it looked like under normal lighting circumstances. the combination of high & low beams produces a very strong, focused, clear, and well balanced light source. my night driving confidence with these lamps in my car has been greatly increased. for a total of about 80 dollars and 10 minutes of work, i consider it money well spent.

on the contrary, if i had $600 - $800 dollars to spend on upgrading the entire system to high output HID lamps, i would do so in a heartbeat. why? the power is amazing, the throw is outstanding, the confidence they inspire whilst driving in the dark is overwhelming, and the look is not duplicated any other way. however, the cost vs. the benefit, is obviously not worth the extra expense under normal circumstances.

as an educated consumer, one must be wary of how they spend hundreds of dollars. upon purchasing my 3, i lusted for the HID option. could i justify the extra expense? in my heart, no. in my eyes, yes. am i happy with this decision? very much. do i still lust for HID? of course, they LOOK amazing, but from a performance vs. cost point of view HIDs are, frankly, nothing but a rip-off.

sorry for the long ramble but i've given this junk quite a bit of consideration. your educated & thought out replies are welcome. i know there are many educated people on this board who will have valid points to add. i would love to hear what you have to say.
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Wow I'm impressed man. I will take a picture of the cut off beam pattern tonight. Will you do the same with yours and we can compare? This might be an excellent money saver for people who cant afford to spend 600 on HID's. :)
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Wow I'm impressed man. I will take a picture of the cut off beam pattern tonight. Will you do the same with yours and we can compare? This might be an excellent money saver for people who cant afford to spend 600 on HID's. :)

i'll be glad to take some pictures of the beam patterns. i really wanted to take some when taking the 1st set of pictures but the lights in my neighborhood are both shitty tungsten street lamps and really bright.
i will take the car out on some back roads tonight to get some shots.

also, as i said in my post above, these bulbs are far and away the closest halogen will ever get to touching all of the great things about HID.

i'd really like to find someone else with a 3 in the raleigh / durham / chapel hill area that has HIDs so i could shoot some side by side comparison shots. too bad there are only a few 3s around & i don't know of anyone on the boards from this neck of the woods.

as all of you should know by now, a LOT of marketing goes into this kinda aftermarket car stuff. there is a TON of crap you have to sift through in order to find some truth. they say a picture is worth a thousand words. it's just such a shame you can't take the word of someone trying to sell you this junk. personally, i have nothing to gain from telling you how great one thing is over the other. the best i can offer is my honest advice with as many facts & photographs as i can muster up to strentghen what i have to say.

ps. to prevent any bullshit flags, it may be good to know that i do happen to have a background in studio & portrait photography. i promise that i am not just talking out of my ass ;)
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fair enough. let's agree to a couple of rules for the pics :


1) try to get it on the wall / garage door so that people can get a gauge of how high the beam is from the ground. try to be back around 10 feet on as flat of a surface as you can possbily get on.


2) try to get one out on an open street. The darker the area, the better ( external light sucks)

3) face the car about 5 feet back dead on and take a shot


4) Stand at a 90 degree angle to the front and take a shot ( to see side glare)



Even though we're a thousand miles apart... by taking the same pics... we'll basically get the same shots going :)
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BlackMz3 said:
fair enough. let's agree to a couple of rules for the pics :


1) try to get it on the wall / garage door so that people can get a gauge of how high the beam is from the ground. try to be back around 10 feet on as flat of a surface as you can possbily get on.


2) try to get one out on an open street. The darker the area, the better ( external light sucks)

3) face the car about 5 feet back dead on and take a shot


4) Stand at a 90 degree angle to the front and take a shot ( to see side glare)



Even though we're a thousand miles apart... by taking the same pics... we'll basically get the same shots going :)
solid.
one thing to take into account will be the fact we both have different cameras. plus you may or may not have a tripod to use.

some general points about getting these images to look similar & realisitc :


-use a tripod or something solid to set your camera on.

-use a neutral exposure ( +/- 0 )

-use an ISO ~50 ( if you can't change that on your cam no big deal - automatic will work just fine )

-shoot one shot of each type from the level of the lights & then one at a normal standing height ( this should help recreate everything that one would be seeing in real life )

-adjust your white balance to ensure the camera is seeing the real thing.

-try to get one shot from each angle with both hi beams & low beams seperately

-if you can mark down your camera settings for each shot, that would be great. we'll be able to make any corrections based on those numbers.


this is going to be great! anyone else want to play? the more the merrier i say. i would really love for someone with stock halogens to join in so i do not have to put my old ones back together.

also, i will try to get some shots from the drivers seat of the lamps lighting up some different types of roads. second best to actually being in the seat yourself i suppose.


thanks!
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Well.. if he said he didn't change the foglamps.. then i suspect the lowbeams don't look as white in real life than in the pics..

I know how my foglamps light up... so i know how this picture is not showing the real thing.

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Tho color on the headunit itself might not be the TRUE color our eye sees, but what's on the ground is what I see with my silverstar.
Where did you get your bulbs?

I can't find the Osram Silverstar hi-beam, only the philips blue vision 9005
mEtHoDySt said:
Where did you get your bulbs?

I can't find the Osram Silverstar hi-beam, only the philips blue vision 9005
i picked up the last 2 hi-beams the local discount auto parts / advance auto parts had. the part number was 9005t. check out the silverstar website, they list all of the replacement bulb part #s. you should be able to order them online from at least a few different sources.
Actually what you see on the ground in the previous pic is from the fog lights. The headlights do not shine down that low. By setting the white balance for tungsten you have made everything more blue. The headlights look especially blue because there is virtually no mixing of the ambient lighting with the direct light from the headlights. The stripe on the ground looks white because it is lighted by a mixture of the ambient sodium streetlights and the headlights with the added color shift from the white balance setting. You should have realised this when the fog lights looked blue also.
Using the daylight setting and having only one bulb swapped is the only way to have a real comparison.
BTW Wal Mart now has Silverstar H7's for $35 a pair. Saw them last night.
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