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Well i fell in love with the ms3 as soon as i found out they were turbo'd. Right now i have a 2005 Scion TC with 37000 miles on the odo. The car has a few mods on it but would like to know whats the best way to get rid of my car so that i can buy the ms3. right now i owe 13500 on my scion tc. do you think they will give me just that for my trade so that i can get the ms3. here are a few pics of my car now. OH and should i take my mods out before getting it appraised or should i keep them there. All help will be appreciated. thanks






im also trying to buy the fiance a mz3 so i hope they will give me a good deal for two cars!
 

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thats a slick lookin tc. you'd be better off in parting out the mods and trading it in stock, especially with the wheels, they won't give you anything for nice wheels.
 

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1. Return to car to stock. Sell your aftermarket parts for downpayment.

2. Clean car inside and out.

3. Check Edmunds.com, kbb.com for idea of what your car's worth

3a. Take car to CarMax and find out what they would give you. You can sell it to them, or not, but it gives you a good estimate of what the Mazda dealer would offer.

4. Take Scion to Mazda dealer and start dealing. If they won't come close to what you owe on your car, walk away and try to sell it privately...Local newspaper, Autotrader, classifeds, eBay.

5. If Mazda dealer comes close to what you owe, then fold the remaining balance of the loan on your Scion into your Mazda. Just remember, your loan will now be for [price of Speed3] + [remainder of scion loan] - downpayment.

Expect to pay MSRP +/- $1000 depending on your area. Some areas arent as hot, some are really hot. They're selling pretty well overall so don't expect to walk in and pay invoice for the MS3.

I was where you are about 6 months ago. I had an SVT Focus that I owed $11500 on and the MS3 was just calling my name. My best advice would be: Save. Get top dollar for your Scion, and take into consideration your budget.

I saved for 2 months to get a good down payment, and sold my car to a local for $500 more than I owed. I went in, wrote a check for my down payment, signed the papers, and drove away happy and sane.
 

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wow dude.

i would give you my mazda3 for your TC.

lol.... I seriously would try to trade you..

Your TC is nice!

you owe 13,500? thats alot! I only owe 5,000~..

Would supercharging your TC not produce enough power to compensate the cost of buying a new mazdaspeed?
 

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37000 miles on a 2 year old car is alot of miles, they take milage into consideration when making the offer. check what the blue book is and see if they will come in close to it, i traded my '02 GTI with only 35000 on the odo. the high bb was 11500 and the low was 9100, they  offered me $8500 and $700 under msrp on the speed3 GT so i signed the papers. nice looking car BTW....
 

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Well, on a trade in, mods or not, you will be lucky to get 13k. Now, if you sell it yourself, ask for 15.5k and take no less than 14k. The mods, as good as they look to you and I, may not appeal to someone else so do be willing to revert to stock for anyone who wants it that way and then see if you can sell off the mods. Unless you find someone who wants all those mods, they hold zero value. My professional advice is that you do not trade this car in because you will get screwed. Parting out some of the mods will work but not too many people will buy a used CAI. The rims, as long as they are in great condition will get you a few bucks, at least 25% of what you paid. I hope this helps you.
 

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you shouldn't have any problems selling the performnce parts on a scion forum, im sure you hang out on one if your that modded out.
 

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[quote author=kspec link=topic=71460.msg1257173#msg1257173 date=1173395894]
wow dude.

i would give you my mazda3 for your TC.

lol.... I seriously would try to trade you..

Your TC is nice!

you owe 13,500? thats alot! I only owe 5,000~..

Would supercharging your TC not produce enough power to compensate the cost of buying a new mazdaspeed?
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A supercharger for the tc will only give me about 40 hp more.

Thanks for everyones advice. I think ill just return the car back to stock and sell the parts on scionlife.com
Ive had the car for sale for about a year now with no bights ....i think its becuase i was asking 15000 for it and knowone has that kinda cash to dish. i guess i will try autotrader and ask 13500 for it and if that doesnt work ill part it and trade it stock. again thanks for everyones advice.
 

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[quote author=IvanHoe link=topic=71460.msg1257285#msg1257285 date=1173401301]
[quote author=kspec link=topic=71460.msg1257173#msg1257173 date=1173395894]
wow dude.

i would give you my mazda3 for your TC.

lol.... I seriously would try to trade you..

Your TC is nice!

you owe 13,500? thats alot! I only owe 5,000~..

Would supercharging your TC not produce enough power to compensate the cost of buying a new mazdaspeed?
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A supercharger for the tc will only give me about 40 hp more.

Thanks for everyones advice. I think ill just return the car back to stock and sell the parts on scionlife.com
Ive had the car for sale for about a year now with no bights ....i think its becuase i was asking 15000 for it and knowone has that kinda cash to dish. i guess i will try autotrader and ask 13500 for it and if that doesnt work ill part it and trade it stock. again thanks for everyones advice.
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Not to keep going OT, as it seems you're already dead set on getting rid of the tC, but what about turbocharging that beast? I'm sure you're familiar already but just in case, those 2.4s are VERY robust and potent, equipped with a turbo. I'm amazed at how much boost those things are handling reliably.

Not to mention, it looks like a really clean and admirable Scion...the kind I'd give props to if I saw it around my way, unlike many of the ones I actually do see on the road. :goodjob:
 

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Thank you for the comments....the turbonetics turbo for the tc is a very powerful and reliable turbo for it but its about 4000 plus getting someone to properly install it and tune it right. i just rather get the speed3 with warranty and all.
again thanks for the compliments everyone!!!
 

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Here is the Black Book and Manheim Auction numbers for your car in stock form...
figure on the average numbers less about 500 for reconditioning.
Black Book---
2005 Scion tC Base 2D Hatchback
Black Book Trade-In
Clean Average Rough
Base $13,765 $12,830 $10,580
Options ($550) ($550) ($550)
Mileage Adj. ($850) ($500) $0
Total $12,365 $11,780 $10,030


Mar 7 - Mar 14 2007
Above Average Below
Auction $13,050 $11,950 $10,850
Est. Retail $14,650 $13,450 $12,250

I would think that a dealer willing to charge you MSRP for a MS3 would give you a bit of a bump if the car is clean in and out. Have freshly turned rotors and wax it before you go. This way you can argue that it is nearly "front line ready" other than some safety checks. 13500 isn't going to happen in my world, but 12000 might not be too far from accurate if it is nearly perfect.

Hope this helps you make up your mind and doesn't scare you.
 

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remember, if you trade your car in and get offered a reasonable amount for it, when your car is taken in trade you only pay sales tax on the difference in cost between its trade-in value and the price of the new car. so that can equate to 1k+ rather easily
 

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[quote author=kspec link=topic=71460.msg1257173#msg1257173 date=1173395894]


Would supercharging your TC not produce enough power to compensate the cost of buying a new mazdaspeed?
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Considering how I dusted one the other day without trying, no I do not think the supercharger really makes enough of a difference.
 

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My previous experience
Try to sell the TC outside of the trade and you'll get a better deal
If you trade..you'll get drilled no matter which way you look at it.
 

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[quote author=proclam link=topic=71460.msg1257568#msg1257568 date=1173411075]
Considering how I dusted one the other day without trying, no I do not think the supercharger really makes enough of a difference.
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you could strap a jet engine to the top of a TC and I'd still expect to win.

I would just torch the thing in the middle of a parking lot. f*** it. just make sure to hide the evidence in the sewer or some place like that.

HAHA!
 

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[quote author=CosmicBlueMS3 link=topic=71460.msg1257462#msg1257462 date=1173407820]
remember, if you trade your car in and get offered a reasonable amount for it, when your car is taken in trade you only pay sales tax on the difference in cost between its trade-in value and the price of the new car. so that can equate to 1k+ rather easily
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Depends on where you live. MD does not take trade-ins into consideration. AND CHANGE YOUR AVATAR PLEASE! :D
 

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[quote author=IlikeGUNS link=topic=71460.msg1257184#msg1257184 date=1173396491]
37000 miles on a 2 year old car is alot of miles, they take milage into consideration when making the offer. check what the blue book is and see if they will come in close to it, i traded my '02 GTI with only 35000 on the odo. the high bb was 11500 and the low was 9100, they offered me $8500 and $700 under msrp on the speed3 GT so i signed the papers. nice looking car BTW....
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how is 37k on two years alot of miles i have 21k on one year of owning my mazda 3.
 

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[quote author=leofaye link=topic=71460.msg1257680#msg1257680 date=1173416528]
[quote author=CosmicBlueMS3 link=topic=71460.msg1257462#msg1257462 date=1173407820]
remember, if you trade your car in and get offered a reasonable amount for it, when your car is taken in trade you only pay sales tax on the difference in cost between its trade-in value and the price of the new car. so that can equate to 1k+ rather easily
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Depends on where you live. MD does not take trade-ins into consideration. AND CHANGE YOUR AVATAR PLEASE! :D
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My state does and saved a shit load with the trade in considering sales tax is 8.89%
 

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[quote author=*Angel-Of-Darknes* link=topic=71460.msg1257682#msg1257682 date=1173416649]

how is 37k on two years alot of miles i have 21k on one year of owning my mazda 3.
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For ages the accepted yearly avg. for mileage was 12k (bluebook, etc.) Now I believe it is 15k. Either way, well over average.
 
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