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Re: GI; Front Lower Control Arm Bushings

[quote author=bicycle_wreck link=topic=134503.msg2896673#msg2896673 date=1233182560]
Unless your control arms are binding or squeaking, then there is really no point in swapping out the bushings.
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no, these should help reduce the EPIC wheelhop from stock MS3 bushings.
 

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Re: GI; Front Lower Control Arm Bushings

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[quote author=bicycle_wreck link=topic=134503.msg2896673#msg2896673 date=1233182560]
Unless your control arms are binding or squeaking, then there is really no point in swapping out the bushings.
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no, these should help reduce the EPIC wheelhop from stock MS3 bushings.
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Maybe after a full solid mount setup and traction bars. I would do these as a last resort, but whatever, I drive an MZ3 and the Speed3s obviously have more torque to torture the suspension.

It just seems like people just buy shit because they can, not because it will actually improve the car, you know? That was the inspiration for my earlier post.
 

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Re: GI; Front Lower Control Arm Bushings

[quote author=bicycle_wreck link=topic=134503.msg2907777#msg2907777 date=1233630483]
[quote author=bani link=topic=134503.msg2907712#msg2907712 date=1233629321]
[quote author=bicycle_wreck link=topic=134503.msg2896673#msg2896673 date=1233182560]
Unless your control arms are binding or squeaking, then there is really no point in swapping out the bushings.
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no, these should help reduce the EPIC wheelhop from stock MS3 bushings.
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Maybe after a full solid mount setup and traction bars. I would do these as a last resort, but whatever, I drive an MZ3 and the Speed3s obviously have more torque to torture the suspension.

It just seems like people just buy shit because they can, not because it will actually improve the car, you know? That was the inspiration for my earlier post.
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it most definitely improves the car. especially mz3.

you're welcome.

so anyway this is not at all, even in the remotest, "just buying shit because you can". this is a real solution to a real problem -- tranny destroying wheelhop of stock MS3s.

anyway it's pretty obvious you aren't intersted in the least in this GB, why piss on the thread for everyone else?
 

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Re: GI; Front Lower Control Arm Bushings

I was conceding the point that the MS3 might have more reason for the bushings, but I guess you thought I said something else. I wasn't trying to start an argument, and I thought I was actually agreeing with you, but if you want to take this to PMs then we can sort it out.
 

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Re: GI; Front Lower Control Arm Bushings

I am interested in this product after seeing sokool videos. But it wouldn't be something I can get right now. But none the less I am glad to see a product to get rid of some of the crappy jelly bushings that Mazda provided us with.
 

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Re: GI; Front Lower Control Arm Bushings

[quote author=apena85 link=topic=134503.msg2908693#msg2908693 date=1233673278]
I am interested in this product after seeing sokool videos. But it wouldn't be something I can get right now. But none the less I am glad to see a product to get rid of some of the crappy jelly bushings that Mazda provided us with.
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Don't worry. We need atleast 20 people commited for this, so you have some time
 

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Re: GI; Front Lower Control Arm Bushings

[quote author=bani link=topic=134503.msg2907889#msg2907889 date=1233632402]
[quote author=bicycle_wreck link=topic=134503.msg2907777#msg2907777 date=1233630483]
[quote author=bani link=topic=134503.msg2907712#msg2907712 date=1233629321]
[quote author=bicycle_wreck link=topic=134503.msg2896673#msg2896673 date=1233182560]
Unless your control arms are binding or squeaking, then there is really no point in swapping out the bushings.
[/quote]

no, these should help reduce the EPIC wheelhop from stock MS3 bushings.
[/quote]

Maybe after a full solid mount setup and traction bars. I would do these as a last resort, but whatever, I drive an MZ3 and the Speed3s obviously have more torque to torture the suspension.

It just seems like people just buy shit because they can, not because it will actually improve the car, you know? That was the inspiration for my earlier post.
[/quote]

it most definitely improves the car. especially mz3.

you're welcome.

so anyway this is not at all, even in the remotest, "just buying shit because you can". this is a real solution to a real problem -- tranny destroying wheelhop of stock MS3s.

anyway it's pretty obvious you aren't intersted in the least in this GB, why piss on the thread for everyone else?
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definitely a good thing for the transmission if you do a lot of racing. and will probably reduce wheel hop easier than changing engine mounts will, although that will improve the feel of the car in other ways too.
 

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Re: GI; Front Lower Control Arm Bushings

[quote author=darkstarmotorsports link=topic=134503.msg2907082#msg2907082 date=1233615924]
[quote author=budgy link=topic=134503.msg2907048#msg2907048 date=1233614905]
these will work with both Speed 3's and MZ3's? I will pass on the good word to a few others if they havent seen this yet, if this gets the go ahead consider me in.
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They should fit both, but I will check the part numbers to make sure
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any confirmation yet?
 

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Re: GI; Front Lower Control Arm Bushings

[quote author=bani link=topic=134503.msg2909456#msg2909456 date=1233689075]
[quote author=darkstarmotorsports link=topic=134503.msg2907082#msg2907082 date=1233615924]
[quote author=budgy link=topic=134503.msg2907048#msg2907048 date=1233614905]
these will work with both Speed 3's and MZ3's? I will pass on the good word to a few others if they havent seen this yet, if this gets the go ahead consider me in.
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They should fit both, but I will check the part numbers to make sure
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any confirmation yet?
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Still waiting for my guy at Mazda to get back to me. But the order has been made. Bushings will be here in about a week.
 

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Re: GI; Front Lower Control Arm Bushings

for those who don't know, the stock ones are oil filled iirc. someone on this forum had a thread where they rebuilt their stock ones and made new bushings out of urethane. these should help a lot with wheel hop.
 

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Re: GI; Front Lower Control Arm Bushings

[quote author=Sokool link=topic=134503.msg2910844#msg2910844 date=1233722046]
That was me....

My urethane LCA bushings and full SU mounts completely eliminated all wheel hop on my car. Too bad they had to go with the car. :(
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Thank you for the postive input!!! Thes will help a lot of people eliminate some of their wheel hop.



I have bad news for the MS3 guys, these will only fit the normal MZ3. The MS3 bushings are made just for the MS3 control arm, their not interchangeable. And if you wanted to purchased the bushing alone from Mazda, you would have to purchase the entire control arm with it.
 

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surprisingly I have noticed wheel hop a lot less often and much less severe than I did on my old MZ3. and I am still on all factory mounts, but yeah this is unfortunate news for us speed owners. hopefully someone will make them for us someday....take me off teh list :(
 
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