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I just got a 2007 GT 5-door last month, have about 500 miles since. I got the 5-speed ATX since my wife doesn't drive MTX.

Something that REALLY bothers me is how unresponsive the transmission is. Under medium acceleration, it upshifts way too early, and puts me into 5th gear when cruising at 40 mph. It's difficult to maintain speed in this gear at 40, the engine feels like it works too hard. Additionally, to increase the speed in 5th is very sluggish, which brings me to the my second dissatisfaction.

It's also way too slow to downshift. A medium amount of pedal does not cause a timely downshift to increase rpm's. I can of course stomp the pedal, but this creates too much power for my needs. The unresponsive downshifts are problematic when cruising at the aforementioned ~40mph when a little acceleration power is required, and likewise for turns, when 2nd is needed out of the turn instead of 3rd.

Previously, I drove a '02 Camry for 3 years (we were a 1 car family until we moved to the burbs), and the 4-speed ATX shifts were much better regulated than the 3. Also, the Camry had near imperceptible delay between gears. Sometimes the 3 has a 1-2 second delay between shifts.

Overall, I'm very happy with the 3's handling, but in terms of powertrain, our Toyota is much, much more refined. Not to mention for a car with about the same size engine (2.4l vs 2.3l), and weighed 400 lbs more, averaged about 5mpg better.
 

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[quote author=thr33 link=topic=65863.msg1128744#msg1128744 date=1167711789]
I just got a 2007 GT 5-door last month, have about 500 miles since. I got the 5-speed ATX since my wife doesn't drive MTX.

Something that REALLY bothers me is how unresponsive the transmission is. Under medium acceleration, it upshifts way too early, and puts me into 5th gear when cruising at 40 mph. It's difficult to maintain speed in this gear at 40, the engine feels like it works too hard. Additionally, to increase the speed in 5th is very sluggish, which brings me to the my second dissatisfaction.

It's also way too slow to downshift. A medium amount of pedal does not cause a timely downshift to increase rpm's. I can of course stomp the pedal, but this creates too much power for my needs. The unresponsive downshifts are problematic when cruising at the aforementioned ~40mph when a little acceleration power is required, and likewise for turns, when 2nd is needed out of the turn instead of 3rd.

Previously, I drove a '02 Camry for 3 years (we were a 1 car family until we moved to the burbs), and the 4-speed ATX shifts were much better regulated than the 3. Also, the Camry had near imperceptible delay between gears. Sometimes the 3 has a 1-2 second delay between shifts.

Overall, I'm very happy with the 3's handling, but in terms of powertrain, our Toyota is much, much more refined. Not to mention for a car with about the same size engine (2.4l vs 2.3l), and weighed 400 lbs more, averaged about 5mpg better.


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Trade you for my 4spd ATX! Just kidding.
My first question is... do you ever just shift manually? I've found that you can control a lot more this way, and it ends up being more fun! Personally, I wouldn't mind the car shifting into 5th gear at 40 MPH, better fuel economy... which is what I think your car is doing. I don't even have a 5th gear.. so this would be nice!

Honestly, I don't even let the car shift anymore. I just shift manually, and I've actually been getting better fuel economy that way. When I just leave it in auto mode, the car seems to be in a higher RPM all the time and takes TOO long to upshift. But of course, I'm trying to get better gas mileage, so the scenario is different for me. Another plus with shifting yourself, is that you can stay in 4th gear at 40 MPH if you want to. I think your transmission is probably fine, and its just something you need to get used to. Every car is different. But I definitely see why you are frustrated. The sluggish downshift is something I don't understand. I don't know if it is because your car isn't broken in yet, or if its just because you have a totally different transmission than mine. Mine doesn't have that issue... but of course, I don't want it to either. I plug along in traffic relatively slowly... which is new to me, because I used to be a bit of a speed demon. But I bought this car specifically for fuel economy, and since it hasn't lived up to that, I've had to change some things with ME instead. I have a motorcycle for my speed needs if I crave it.

Lastly, I do have to say, with all the other cars I've also owned, the Mazda 2.3 is most definitely an odd-ball engine. There are some prominent quirks with it that take some time to get used to. It's not very smooth. If you're really on it from a start, sometimes you're going no where, and then all of a sudden the VVT technology kicks in and it goes from a sleeping kitty to a bat out of hell.

My closing advice is to just take it easy for now and try to learn your car... I found this car to be the most difficult to get used to. After about 8k miles (or so, this can be debated) your car will have finished breaking in and things should be somewhat normal.
 

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Trade you for my 4spd ATX! Just kidding.
My first question is... do you ever just shift manually? I've found that you can control a lot more this way, and it ends up being more fun! Personally, I wouldn't mind the car shifting into 5th gear at 40 MPH, better fuel economy... which is what I think your car is doing. I don't even have a 5th gear.. so this would be nice!

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My closing advice is to just take it easy for now and try to learn your car... I found this car to be the most difficult to get used to. After about 8k miles (or so, this can be debated) your car will have finished breaking in and things should be somewhat normal.

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Thanks for your advice & taking the time to write all that! :D
 
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