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I read the install insructions on the new inserts that I just got. I'm wondering if I really have to move the engine? I think I read somewhere that the engine doesn't have to be jacked up? ANyone out there who has already done the install and can maybe give me install instructions with a little more detail? THanks
 

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no need to move the engine or jack it up....just undo the engine mount bolts and the bracket...the two side mounts will keep the engine held up

very easy to install if you have jack stands or ramps
 

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[quote author=steven88 link=topic=136819.msg2949376#msg2949376 date=1235113678]
no need to move the engine or jack it up....just undo the engine mount bolts and the bracket...the two side mounts will keep the engine held up

very easy to install if you have jack stands or ramps
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Thanks for the info, I'll probably do the install tomorrow after I get out of class. I'll let you guys know how it goes :lol:
 

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please let me know how it goes. I am waiting for my cs insert as well.
just wish for warm weather when it gets here. Thanks.
 

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[quote author=dkspeed3 link=topic=136819.msg2963682#msg2963682 date=1235685907]
please let me know how it goes. I am waiting for my cs insert as well.
just wish for warm weather when it gets here. Thanks.
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you posted at just the right time. i just finished installing the inserts about an hour ago. I could feel the difference simply by revving the engine, no more jitters :). So far after a very brief test drive and then sitting passenger while I let my friend drive the impression is good. The drivetrain lash off throttle after hard acceleration is gone. The car feels much smoother. The only thing that I noticed and I'm sure you have too is that people complain about vibrations. The only vibration I noticed was felt when coming off the clutch in first, I'm sure it will go away after the break in. Also make sure you get help from at least one person for the install. My car is relatively new so all of the screws were really tight. It wasn't listed in the instructions but you don't have to really support the engine, and in order to get enough movement to free the stock mount we had to undo the exhaust hangers, which freed up some motion...overall I'm very pleased with the dramatic result after a $35 investment.

PS...I have yet to take a windy road or the freeway but apparently the inserts are supposed to keep the car more planted.
 

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thanks for the info. I will install mine once weather get better. I hope those bolts come out easily. Mine is 09 black mica also. let me know when you install the shifter bushing. I want one too.
 

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[quote author=dkspeed3 link=topic=136819.msg2964622#msg2964622 date=1235712218]
thanks for the info. I will install mine once weather get better. I hope those bolts come out easily. Mine is 09 black mica also. let me know when you install the shifter bushing. I want one too.
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Yeah, the bolt that attaches to the engine was pretty hard, don't try to do it laying on cardboard or else you will just pull yourself. For the bolt that is attached to the mount itself I used a breaker bar to get enough torque to loosen it.

On the shifter bushings, I don't have the guts to take out the center console just yet, maybe in a week or so, I baby my car way too much for its own good.

The vibrations, now that I think about it are a little more in the cabin, but I heard that those go away after the break in period. Good luck with yours
 

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I'll tell you, I had the inserts, and it was nice.....for about 3-4 months. I realized that I could no longer tell the benefits. I changed out with the Medival Mount and now I'm totally satisfied. Obviously since you bought them already so you might as well install them (or put in the FS section), but I'm pretty sure in 6 months you'll be looking for a more permanent solution.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the inserts, but they don't last very long.
 

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[quote author=thajones link=topic=136819.msg2966928#msg2966928 date=1235830780]
I'll tell you, I had the inserts, and it was nice.....for about 3-4 months. I realized that I could no longer tell the benefits. I changed out with the Medival Mount and now I'm totally satisfied. Obviously since you bought them already so you might as well install them (or put in the FS section), but I'm pretty sure in 6 months you'll be looking for a more permanent solution.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the inserts, but they don't last very long.
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Could you further explain what you mean by not being able to feel the benefits? Also, part of the reason I bought them was for peace of mind that the mount won't just fail...but we'll see what happens in the next few months. :lol:
 

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That "connected" feeling, where you can tell the mount is stiffer - like....if you engage the clutch suddenly it doesn't feel as sloppy pulling off, more like the engine and the rest of the car are one and they all move at the same time forward, not that split second delay where the engine shifts in the bay and then the rest of the car follows.

It's kinda hard to describe, now that I think of it. I mean, you KNOW when you stiffen up that mount, there is no doubt that something is better. Of course you get used to the feeling so it's not as immediately noticed after a week. But wheelhop is very much reduced compared to stock. I guess, 3 or 4 months in it seemed like I was getting more wheelhop than I thought I should, or that I remembered from when they were first put in. You start questioning, and you're not quite sure. But once that group buy came around, and I got the Medival mount and put that in, there was no more doubt, it was back the way it should be.

And even now, months later, I can still feel the "connection" - and if I'm not sure, all I have to do is turn on the AC and I feel that low shudder and I'm back at piece in my mind.

Surely someone else on here can describe this too and chime in?
 

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[quote author=thajones link=topic=136819.msg2971580#msg2971580 date=1236036713]
That "connected" feeling, where you can tell the mount is stiffer - like....if you engage the clutch suddenly it doesn't feel as sloppy pulling off, more like the engine and the rest of the car are one and they all move at the same time forward, not that split second delay where the engine shifts in the bay and then the rest of the car follows.

It's kinda hard to describe, now that I think of it. I mean, you KNOW when you stiffen up that mount, there is no doubt that something is better. Of course you get used to the feeling so it's not as immediately noticed after a week. But wheelhop is very much reduced compared to stock. I guess, 3 or 4 months in it seemed like I was getting more wheelhop than I thought I should, or that I remembered from when they were first put in. You start questioning, and you're not quite sure. But once that group buy came around, and I got the Medival mount and put that in, there was no more doubt, it was back the way it should be.

And even now, months later, I can still feel the "connection" - and if I'm not sure, all I have to do is turn on the AC and I feel that low shudder and I'm back at piece in my mind.

Surely someone else on here can describe this too and chime in?
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Thanks for the explanation. I like the feeling that the inserts are giving right now, but the main reason I bought them was for peace of mind. Hopefully they will be satisfactory, but if not I might have to upgrade like you did...

PS How many miles did you put on the inserts before you noticed that they weren't having the same effect that they originally had?
 

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I would say roughly 8,000-10,000 miles. I do not dog my car day in and day out either, I usually drive pretty "granny" on average, just to save gas, tire wear, etc...but I still do the mileage. I bought my MS3 last April, so in 11 months, roughly 23,000 miles
 

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I haven't really noticed mine getting any weaker after 5k miles, but I do plan on getting a cp-e mount for a more pernament solution. These will do for now, but I'm ready to try something better with the least amount of vibes possible.
 

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[quote author=evo2ms3 link=topic=136819.msg2972006#msg2972006 date=1236045914]
I haven't really noticed mine getting any weaker after 5k miles, but I do plan on getting a cp-e mount for a more pernament solution. These will do for now, but I'm ready to try something better with the least amount of vibes possible.
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Good to hear...I've had my car for about 6 months, and minus time that it has been in the shop, I have under 4k miles. I'm a college student so I drive probably less than 10 miles a day to and from school and the occasional trip home...hopefully the inserts stay effective :lol:
 

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Finally weather got warm enough and did my cs insert today.
Mine being 09, bolts were little tight but had no trouble getting it out.
I guess being 6'3 and 200lb help also.
I moved the bracket, holding motor mount and made whole process much easier, took just over 30 min.
I think it's great upgrade for so little money. yes, there is slight increase of vibration in low rpms,
but small sacrifice for big gains. Wheel hop is reduced way down and shifting feels much crispier.
Just hope it last long time. My ms3 being a daily drive, it already has 8k miles in 5 months.
 
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