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What's the difference between this one http://www.mazdastuff.com/product.cfm?ProductID=2835 and this one http://www.therpmstore.com/product_info.php?products_id=381{33}119{10}36??
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only concrete difference at this point is that the CP-E is 3" and the Mazdaspeed is 2.75"
the mazdaspeed CAI isnt on the streets yet so there are no dyno comparisons to look at
the mazdaspeed CAI isnt on the streets yet so there are no dyno comparisons to look at
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cosmic forget one very important aspect...color. I have a black CPE CAI and they also come in grey and red. As far as I know, the mazdaspeed version only comes in a polished finish.
We all know that the most important thing when adding performance parts to our car is not the performance results, but the look! looks are everything...lets be serious here.
We all know that the most important thing when adding performance parts to our car is not the performance results, but the look! looks are everything...lets be serious here.
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[quote author=DreamMazdaRacer link=topic=69656.msg1211411#msg1211411 date=1171611426]
What's the difference between this one http://www.mazdastuff.com/product.cfm?ProductID=2835 and this one http://www.therpmstore.com/product_info.php?products_id=381{33}119{10}36??
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the the Mazda on in the link is for the regular 2.3L non turbo that's a pretty big difference. also the MS intake for the MS3 is cheaper than the cp-e one and comes with a filter cleaning kit and splash shield.
What's the difference between this one http://www.mazdastuff.com/product.cfm?ProductID=2835 and this one http://www.therpmstore.com/product_info.php?products_id=381{33}119{10}36??
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the the Mazda on in the link is for the regular 2.3L non turbo that's a pretty big difference. also the MS intake for the MS3 is cheaper than the cp-e one and comes with a filter cleaning kit and splash shield.
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[quote author=sturge-speed3 link=topic=69656.msg1211486#msg1211486 date=1171629988]
cosmic forget one very important aspect...color. I have a black CPE CAI and they also come in grey and red. As far as I know, the mazdaspeed version only comes in a polished finish.
We all know that the most important thing when adding performance parts to our car is not the performance results, but the look! looks are everything...lets be serious here.
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Yeah, man, I know my performance will increase due to increased adrenalin when I pop the hood and see that lovely red intake lying in there.
cosmic forget one very important aspect...color. I have a black CPE CAI and they also come in grey and red. As far as I know, the mazdaspeed version only comes in a polished finish.
We all know that the most important thing when adding performance parts to our car is not the performance results, but the look! looks are everything...lets be serious here.
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Yeah, man, I know my performance will increase due to increased adrenalin when I pop the hood and see that lovely red intake lying in there.
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[quote author=desperado callado link=topic=69656.msg1211732#msg1211732 date=1171639946]
[quote author=sturge-speed3 link=topic=69656.msg1211486#msg1211486 date=1171629988]
cosmic forget one very important aspect...color. I have a black CPE CAI and they also come in grey and red. As far as I know, the mazdaspeed version only comes in a polished finish.
We all know that the most important thing when adding performance parts to our car is not the performance results, but the look! looks are everything...lets be serious here.
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Yeah, man, I know my performance will increase due to increased adrenalin when I pop the hood and see that lovely red intake lying in there.
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I hear ya man! lol theres more than just being fast...theres being sexy. and when your fast AND sexy, its a two hit combo that cannot be competed with...go the sexy route...go the CPE route.
sound like a good promo line or what?? haha
[quote author=sturge-speed3 link=topic=69656.msg1211486#msg1211486 date=1171629988]
cosmic forget one very important aspect...color. I have a black CPE CAI and they also come in grey and red. As far as I know, the mazdaspeed version only comes in a polished finish.
We all know that the most important thing when adding performance parts to our car is not the performance results, but the look! looks are everything...lets be serious here.
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Yeah, man, I know my performance will increase due to increased adrenalin when I pop the hood and see that lovely red intake lying in there.
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I hear ya man! lol theres more than just being fast...theres being sexy. and when your fast AND sexy, its a two hit combo that cannot be competed with...go the sexy route...go the CPE route.
sound like a good promo line or what?? haha
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someone on this forum once said...
"A freakin 3" intake is a freakin 3" intake"
"A freakin 3" intake is a freakin 3" intake"
[quote author=desperado callado link=topic=69656.msg1211732#msg1211732 date=1171639946]
[quote author=sturge-speed3 link=topic=69656.msg1211486#msg1211486 date=1171629988]
cosmic forget one very important aspect...color. I have a black CPE CAI and they also come in grey and red. As far as I know, the mazdaspeed version only comes in a polished finish.
We all know that the most important thing when adding performance parts to our car is not the performance results, but the look! looks are everything...lets be serious here.
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Yeah, man, I know my performance will increase due to increased adrenalin when I pop the hood and see that lovely red intake lying in there.
[/quote] The Powder coating adds weight, so the guys with the colored CAI's will have worse performance due to higher unsprung weight. :rofl: :mrgreen: :exnbprofl:
[quote author=sturge-speed3 link=topic=69656.msg1211486#msg1211486 date=1171629988]
cosmic forget one very important aspect...color. I have a black CPE CAI and they also come in grey and red. As far as I know, the mazdaspeed version only comes in a polished finish.
We all know that the most important thing when adding performance parts to our car is not the performance results, but the look! looks are everything...lets be serious here.
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Yeah, man, I know my performance will increase due to increased adrenalin when I pop the hood and see that lovely red intake lying in there.
[/quote] The Powder coating adds weight, so the guys with the colored CAI's will have worse performance due to higher unsprung weight. :rofl: :mrgreen: :exnbprofl:
I'll stick with the Mazda cai. I really don't care what color the intake as long as it performs as advertised. And with the the issues we have been seeing with this car I definately am not going mess around with my warrantee.
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[quote author=tuners link=topic=69656.msg1213681#msg1213681 date=1171723261]
I'll stick with the Mazda cai. I really don't care what color the intake as long as it performs as advertised. And with the the issues we have been seeing with this car I definately am not going mess around with my warrantee.
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+1
I'll stick with the Mazda cai. I really don't care what color the intake as long as it performs as advertised. And with the the issues we have been seeing with this car I definately am not going mess around with my warrantee.
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+1
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something I noticed with the CP-E cai, I dont like to be negative about a product, but I would like input on what I saw.
If you look at the CP-E cai, check out the MAF housing. to me it looks like the 3" tube diameter from the filter side narrows down to fit the housing and then goes back to 3" again.
I cant help but wonder how this perceived restriction effects flow. sure the tube is 3" as advertised, but what size is the peice that houses the MAF? To me it looks like it drops .25" to the size that the entire mazdaspeed cai is.
am I seeing things?
If you look at the CP-E cai, check out the MAF housing. to me it looks like the 3" tube diameter from the filter side narrows down to fit the housing and then goes back to 3" again.
I cant help but wonder how this perceived restriction effects flow. sure the tube is 3" as advertised, but what size is the peice that houses the MAF? To me it looks like it drops .25" to the size that the entire mazdaspeed cai is.
am I seeing things?
[quote author=CosmicBlueMS3 link=topic=69656.msg1213747#msg1213747 date=1171729865]
something I noticed with the CP-E cai, I dont like to be negative about a product, but I would like input on what I saw.
If you look at the CP-E cai, check out the MAF housing. to me it looks like the 3" tube diameter from the filter side narrows down to fit the housing and then goes back to 3" again.
I cant help but wonder how this perceived restriction effects flow. sure the tube is 3" as advertised, but what size is the peice that houses the MAF? To me it looks like it drops .25" to the size that the entire mazdaspeed cai is.
am I seeing things?
[/quote] Dat's how they keep the CAI from throwin a CEL !!!!! 8) 8) 8)
something I noticed with the CP-E cai, I dont like to be negative about a product, but I would like input on what I saw.
If you look at the CP-E cai, check out the MAF housing. to me it looks like the 3" tube diameter from the filter side narrows down to fit the housing and then goes back to 3" again.
I cant help but wonder how this perceived restriction effects flow. sure the tube is 3" as advertised, but what size is the peice that houses the MAF? To me it looks like it drops .25" to the size that the entire mazdaspeed cai is.
am I seeing things?
[/quote] Dat's how they keep the CAI from throwin a CEL !!!!! 8) 8) 8)
it keeps the car from running to lean, by taking an acurate maf reading. X amount of air in a 2.75" tube creates a certian amount of velocity that the maf will read. with a 3" pipe the same X amount of air will have less velocity and cause the maf to think there is less air than there is.
the mazdaspeed cai can be gotten in other colors too, see the link to street unit .
http://www.streetunit.com/MAZDASPEED_Cold_Air_Intake_p/su-s8ml29.htm
http://www.streetunit.com/MAZDASPEED_Cold_Air_Intake_p/su-s8ml29.htm
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that whole describtion is full of wrong information copied from another website and posted on their website with a price and a checkout cart
you can always get it powder coated somewhere for what ever color you want..
you can always get it powder coated somewhere for what ever color you want..
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[quote author=TRU-BOOST link=topic=69656.msg1213956#msg1213956 date=1171741490]
it keeps the car from running to lean, by taking an acurate maf reading. X amount of air in a 2.75" tube creates a certian amount of velocity that the maf will read. with a 3" pipe the same X amount of air will have less velocity and cause the maf to think there is less air than there is.
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I understand the reason behind the maf housing being 2.75" (perceived) but what effect does having a 3" tube before and a 3" tube after the 2.75" maf housing have on the overall performance?
how is that a benefit?
it keeps the car from running to lean, by taking an acurate maf reading. X amount of air in a 2.75" tube creates a certian amount of velocity that the maf will read. with a 3" pipe the same X amount of air will have less velocity and cause the maf to think there is less air than there is.
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I understand the reason behind the maf housing being 2.75" (perceived) but what effect does having a 3" tube before and a 3" tube after the 2.75" maf housing have on the overall performance?
how is that a benefit?
I would think that the overall performace on the CP-E CAI wouldnt be hurt at all from the .25 inch differance. I love gains that I got from the CP-E and the Turbo XS pipe togther..The car is much stronger and ramps up power from 2500rmp now. The CP-E is supposed to have an air stightner in the tube as well to help decress the turbulence of the air comming in.
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[quote author=Kawwikid link=topic=69656.msg1215136#msg1215136 date=1171821737]
The CP-E is supposed to have an air stightner in the tube as well to help decress the turbulence of the air comming in.
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Id be interested if someone could get a picture of that. I cant imagine what an air straightener is that wouldnt be considered restrictive.
The CP-E is supposed to have an air stightner in the tube as well to help decress the turbulence of the air comming in.
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Id be interested if someone could get a picture of that. I cant imagine what an air straightener is that wouldnt be considered restrictive.
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[quote author=CosmicBlueMS3 link=topic=69656.msg1215153#msg1215153 date=1171822777]
[quote author=Kawwikid link=topic=69656.msg1215136#msg1215136 date=1171821737]
The CP-E is supposed to have an air stightner in the tube as well to help decress the turbulence of the air comming in.
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Id be interested if someone could get a picture of that. I cant imagine what an air straightener is that wouldnt be considered restrictive.
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Quite a few stock cars have them before the MAF. It looks alittle like a cat, square mesh, that is about 1/4 deep with 1/4 square holes.
[quote author=Kawwikid link=topic=69656.msg1215136#msg1215136 date=1171821737]
The CP-E is supposed to have an air stightner in the tube as well to help decress the turbulence of the air comming in.
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Id be interested if someone could get a picture of that. I cant imagine what an air straightener is that wouldnt be considered restrictive.
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Quite a few stock cars have them before the MAF. It looks alittle like a cat, square mesh, that is about 1/4 deep with 1/4 square holes.
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[quote author=ElyasWolff link=topic=69656.msg1215178#msg1215178 date=1171824260]
[quote author=CosmicBlueMS3 link=topic=69656.msg1215153#msg1215153 date=1171822777]
[quote author=Kawwikid link=topic=69656.msg1215136#msg1215136 date=1171821737]
The CP-E is supposed to have an air stightner in the tube as well to help decress the turbulence of the air comming in.
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Id be interested if someone could get a picture of that. I cant imagine what an air straightener is that wouldnt be considered restrictive.
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Quite a few stock cars have them before the MAF. It looks alittle like a cat, square mesh, that is about 1/4 deep with 1/4 square holes.
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yup my titan has that too its popular to remove it if you put a TB spacer in since the one on my truck it behind the throttle body its kinda like a gasket
[quote author=CosmicBlueMS3 link=topic=69656.msg1215153#msg1215153 date=1171822777]
[quote author=Kawwikid link=topic=69656.msg1215136#msg1215136 date=1171821737]
The CP-E is supposed to have an air stightner in the tube as well to help decress the turbulence of the air comming in.
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Id be interested if someone could get a picture of that. I cant imagine what an air straightener is that wouldnt be considered restrictive.
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Quite a few stock cars have them before the MAF. It looks alittle like a cat, square mesh, that is about 1/4 deep with 1/4 square holes.
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yup my titan has that too its popular to remove it if you put a TB spacer in since the one on my truck it behind the throttle body its kinda like a gasket
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