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i've heard of blinder, but can you point to where it says they will send lawyers to defend your ticket. They of all people shoud know its not 100% going to JTG. THe blinder m40 was defeated by almost every gun when aimed at the headlights. That's a LOT of cases they'd have to send lawyers out for.
 

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I'm not calling you a liar, I'm just calling it how it is. No company sends their lawyers to fight speeding tickets even if they claim they will. Especially not a company that markets a device that actively hinders law enforcement. If you remember rocky mountain radar, they had the same claim and they never once sent a lawyer to fight a speeding ticket, and I've read about people trying to get them to as well.

An informative site so anyone reading this thread can go learn about laser and radar speed detection: www.guysoflidar.com

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Sorry I don't mean to berate you or anything but I think this really drives the point i was trying to make home:
http://www.usblinder.com/us/install.htm#Don't%20drive
 

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i mean yea im not gonna argue with u cause there are certain aspects of this where the rules dont apply in the program where as like they dont defend u if u were speeding in a school zone and others like that, and like no more than 20mph over so wut im sayin is that it gives u more of a chance i think than does a normal dector but yet if there using radar than ur screwed either way. no offense but u guys have called me a liar before with my vafc and nitrous
 

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[quote author=aminzer link=topic=58624.msg1616582#msg1616582 date=1186439803]
i mean yea im not gonna argue with u cause there are certain aspects of this where the rules dont apply in the program where as like they dont defend u if u were speeding in a school zone and others like that, and like no more than 20mph over so wut im sayin is that it gives u more of a chance i think than does a normal dector but yet if there using radar than ur screwed either way. no offense but u guys have called me a liar before with my vafc and nitrous
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This is why I was trying to be as polite about it as possible. I am not insinuating you are a liar because of your other thread and what you posted here since some of it is correct, but it clearly states on their own website that they are in no way responsible for anything you do while using their products. That statement alone leads me to believe that they would not defend a ticket you get while using their product. just for the lazy I will quote it here:

Don't drive illegally
We recommend against driving recklessly or above the posted speed limit and assume no responsibility for the actions of any person that purchases or uses the BLINDER M-10 TWIN. We cannot replace your driving license, so drive legally, responsibly and carefully.

They may have made this program 4 years ago when the blinder was almost 100% effective against lidar (therefore absolving them of the need to actually defend their product in court) but it isn't the case anymore. if you notice on their website, the SML test they quote from is from 2003; lidar has come a long way since then. If that program really does still exist and theres some reference of it out there please let me know.

What you say about laser jammers is correct, they definitely do help, but they aren't a replacement for detectors. Since 90% of the police force in this country still uses radar, to not get a detector for that would be leaving yourself open to a wide range of situations where you can get a ticket, and I speak personally when I say I've been in a lot of them.
 

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If I get one of these, can I be one of those guys I see weaving through cars without signaling, cutting people off, almost hitting half the cars on the road, and generally looking like an ass?

Really though, are you going fast enough to get pulled over with other people around?
Put yourself in danger all you want, just don't be stupid...
 

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[quote author=Konrad9 link=topic=58624.msg1627215#msg1627215 date=1186724285]
If I get one of these, can I be one of those guys I see weaving through cars without signaling, cutting people off, almost hitting half the cars on the road, and generally looking like an ass?

Really though, are you going fast enough to get pulled over with other people around?
Put yourself in danger all you want, just don't be stupid...
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Please update your profile with your location.

And your post makes no sense. If you drive on a highway where traffic travels and average of 80 mph and the speed limit is 65, you and every other car going that speed are potential victims of the speeding tax. Everyone will slow down when they see a cop on the side of the road anyways, causing danger to every other driver since variances in speed are more dangerous than the actual speed itself. The driver with the radar detector will be the one who can slow down much earlier and a lot slower so as to not be an ass as you say.
 

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I didn't mean 85. I drive 75-80 and people pass me and make me look I'm standing still.
I don't mean people going with traffic, I mean, as I said, people who are literally weaving through cars without signaling and cutting people off.

As long as you're driving with traffic and not slicing across lanes and tailgating and all that wonderfully dangerous stuff, I really don't care if you're doing 100.
As I always say.
I don't care how fast you drive, I care how safe you are while you're doing it.
 

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do any of you guys know if the V1 is gonna get a facelift (better LED setup and display...) anytime soon? also any ideas on when the next software upgrade is gonna be out?
 

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I just purchased my Escort Passport 9500i. I have been using it for about a week now and I am happy to say it has already saved my butt. This radar/laser detector utilizes GPS to lockout false alerts, mark known speedtraps or camera locations. It also gives real-time speed displays and has many other useful features. Its a bit pricy but to be honest its worth the investment, I have no complaints and highly recommend it.

Here is a review of the Passport 9500i from an industry expert on radar detectors http://www.radarbusters.com/images/pdf2/ESO003.pdf
 

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This part is REALLY IMPORTANT:

Laser is only legally acceptable as a speed measurement device within 1000 feet of the gun. That being said, the beam spreads the further out you go. If for example the cop lasers you at 1400 feet, and you slow down to the speed limit within that 400 ft and he gives you a ticket anyways, you can prove using physics that the distance traveled in the time you passed that 1000 ft mark to the officer that you were doing the speed limit. THIS WILL GET YOU OUT OF A TICKET! There are also other issues that come into play since the laser is a handheld device such as sweeping and panning where the officer sweeps the beam up and across your car adding a few mph to your speed. This can also be refuted using physics, and can knock 3-6 mph off your speed which helps your case.

It is true that the width of the laser beam spreads out the farther it is out from the gun. I do not know where you have heard that the target vehicle must be within 1000 feet of the operator to be legally acceptable. I am not aware of any such case precedents in my state. I have routinely observed best radar detector successful convictions from cases citing speeds confirmed at distances greater that 1500 feet. As far as trying to use a sweeping or panning defense, you will not have much luck there either. Modern Lidar (LIght Detection And Ranging) devices check and verify driver's speeds many times each second. You may be confused with hand held Radar (RAdio Detection And Ranging), in which a co-sine error or shadowing effect defense is commonly used with varying degrees of success. Unless you are an engineer and can explain the inner workings of the device (or you hire an expert witness to provide testimony on your behalf) the prosecutor will object (foundation) to any such attempts on your part to challenge the validity of the Lidar readings. The judge will be obligated to sustain the objection due to the assertion that you have no technical background or sufficient expert knowledge to refute speed measurement equipment that has met the standards of the State. In short, laser cases are extremely difficult to defend, and most judges will find you guilty. Trust me, you could say that I am experienced in this area. 😉 A little bit of trivia, both the radar emission and lidar beam travel at approximately 186,000 miles per second.

In MN, the prosecution must show that the lidar operator is using a device that is congruent with the current standards adopted by the state. In must also be shown that the specific device used on the stop was successfully calibrated (usually within the past 12 months) and that the operator checked that calibration prior to effecting the stop. The prosecutor must then demonstrate that the operator has met the state's requirements for instruction and proper use of the device. That, coupled with the Officer's testimony, will usually substantiate the state's burden of proof beyond reasonable doubt.
thats right
 
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