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http://www.autoblog.com/2009/02/17/2010-mazda3-starting-at-15-045/


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IRVINE, Calif., February 17, 2009 - In an economy where value-for-dollar is more important than ever, the all-new 2010 MAZDA3 proves that good things do come in small packages - and can be affordable too. Mazda North American Operations (MNAO) today announced pricing for its much-anticipated sport compact. Starting at just $15,045, the entry-level 2010 MAZDA3, equipped with manual transmission, is priced just $355 more than the outgoing model.

The 2.0-liter MAZDA3 i Touring 4-door with automatic transmission, which is expected to remain the volume-leader model, will be priced at $18,350 and includes key features such as standard Dynamic Stability Control (DSC), Traction Control (TCS) and Bluetooth® wireless mobile phone and audio capability and hands-free operation. And with fuel economy up to 25/33 mpg (city/highway) - a 10 percent improvement in highway fuel economy - the MAZDA3 i Touring costs less at the pump too.

Starting at just $19,540 for the 4-door and $20,030 for the 5-door, the 2.5-liter MAZDA3 s Sport with automatic transmission adds 17-inch alloy wheels and a Multi-Information Display (MID) with 4.1-inch monochromatic screen that conveys MP3 and i-Pod program information, trip data including fuel economy, plus various maintenance and alert messages. And, like all Mazdas, the new 2.5-liter engine has plenty of Zoom-Zoom - a must for an eco-conscious driving enthusiast. The 2.5-liter engine pushes out 167 horsepower and 168 lb.-ft. of torque - 13 more horsepower and 18 more lb.-ft. of torque than the 2.3-liter it replaces - yet maintains a competitive fuel economy of 22/29 (city/highway).

New packages for the 2010 model include a Technology package and the Moonroof/six CD changer/BOSE ® Audio package.

Available on both s models, the Technology package includes advanced keyless entry, push-button start, a compact full-color navigation system, Sirius satellite radio with six months of free service and a perimeter alarm - all for $1,195.

The Moonroof/six CD changer/ BOSE® Audio package is available on the MAZDA3 i Touring and both s models. In addition to a moonroof and six CD changer, the package adds BOSE® Centerpoint surround sound - a five-channel surround system engineered cooperatively with BOSE® that enhances the listening experience thanks to a digital amplifier, noise cancellation technology and 10, strategically placed, premium speakers. Priced at just $1,395, the Moonroof/six CD changer/ BOSE® Audio package is a must for audiophiles.

Offering more features, functionality, and power than a comparably equipped outgoing 2009 model, when it's all said and done, a fully loaded 2010 MAZDA3 s Grand Touring 4-door is $240 less.
 

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[quote author=boostedminime link=topic=136547.msg2942820#msg2942820 date=1234901212]
The new gt trims come with bi-Xenon headlights
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yes but there is no mention of pricing for those trims.
 

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[quote author=metallurgist link=topic=136547.msg2942840#msg2942840 date=1234901624]
[quote author=boostedminime link=topic=136547.msg2942820#msg2942820 date=1234901212]
The new gt trims come with bi-Xenon headlights
[/quote]

yes but there is no mention of pricing for those trims.
[/quote]

I found the following

"Topping the range is the Mazda3 s Grand Touring ($22,300) in both four- and five-door flavors. While it's powered by the same 2.5L engine and automatic transmission, drivers are comforted by a segment-first eight-way driver seat and Adaptive Front-lighting System (AFS) with bi-xenon headlights."

So, a fully loaded GT will be
$22,300
+ $1,195 (Tech Package)
+ $1,395 (Moonroof/Bose)
---------
$24,980

That's much more than what I paid for my fully loaded GT back in 2006... or did I calculate it wrong?
 

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[quote author=fixxer link=topic=136547.msg2942880#msg2942880 date=1234902263]
[quote author=metallurgist link=topic=136547.msg2942840#msg2942840 date=1234901624]
[quote author=boostedminime link=topic=136547.msg2942820#msg2942820 date=1234901212]
The new gt trims come with bi-Xenon headlights
[/quote]

yes but there is no mention of pricing for those trims.
[/quote]

I found the following

"Topping the range is the Mazda3 s Grand Touring ($22,300) in both four- and five-door flavors. While it's powered by the same 2.5L engine and automatic transmission, drivers are comforted by a segment-first eight-way driver seat and Adaptive Front-lighting System (AFS) with bi-xenon headlights."

So, a fully loaded GT will be
$22,300
+ $1,195 (Tech Package)
+ $1,395 (Moonroof/Bose)
---------
$24,980

That's much more than what I paid for my fully loaded GT back in 2006... or did I calculate it wrong?
[/quote]

I would guess that the advertised price you indicate is MSRP. I doubt you paid full MSRP, and I would hope the dealers have some room to negotiate on the new3 as well.
 

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[quote author=marsdog link=topic=136547.msg2942931#msg2942931 date=1234903264]
I would guess that the advertised price you indicate is MSRP. I doubt you paid full MSRP, and I would hope the dealers have some room to negotiate on the new3 as well.
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You are right. I just priced a 2009 GT Fully Loaded on carsdirect.com and the MSRP comes to $25,800
 

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[quote author=fixxer link=topic=136547.msg2942960#msg2942960 date=1234903576]
[quote author=marsdog link=topic=136547.msg2942931#msg2942931 date=1234903264]
I would guess that the advertised price you indicate is MSRP. I doubt you paid full MSRP, and I would hope the dealers have some room to negotiate on the new3 as well.
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You are right. I just priced a 2009 GT Fully Loaded on carsdirect.com and the MSRP comes to $25,800
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So, now the obvious question is, how much can we discount can we expect from the dealer on the newly introduced model? Three months down the line? Six months?
 

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[quote author=fixxer link=topic=136547.msg2942880#msg2942880 date=1234902263]
[quote author=metallurgist link=topic=136547.msg2942840#msg2942840 date=1234901624]
[quote author=boostedminime link=topic=136547.msg2942820#msg2942820 date=1234901212]
The new gt trims come with bi-Xenon headlights
[/quote]

yes but there is no mention of pricing for those trims.
[/quote]

I found the following

"Topping the range is the Mazda3 s Grand Touring ($22,300) in both four- and five-door flavors. While it's powered by the same 2.5L engine and automatic transmission, drivers are comforted by a segment-first eight-way driver seat and Adaptive Front-lighting System (AFS) with bi-xenon headlights."

So, a fully loaded GT will be
$22,300
+ $1,195 (Tech Package)
+ $1,395 (Moonroof/Bose)
---------
$24,980

That's much more than what I paid for my fully loaded GT back in 2006... or did I calculate it wrong?
[/quote]

I'm sure it's just bad writing but the Motortrend article you quoted seems to indicate that Sport and Grand Touring models come standard with automatic transimissions:

"An automatic 'box, 17-in. wheels and a Multi-Info Display are included in the trim level" - refering to Mazda3 s Sport

"While it's powered by the same 2.5L engine and automatic transmission" - refering to the Grand Touring

http://wot.motortrend.com/6475137/auto-news/2010-mazda3-pricing-begins-at-15045-highest-grand-touring-starts-at-22300/index.html

Also, while not really a direct competitor, you can get a 2.0L Genesis Coupe with the Track Package for about a thousand more and get most of the same amenities, along with a ten year powertrain warranty, rear wheel drive, Limited slip differential, bremo breaks, better gas milage (compared to Mazda's 2.5L) and 40 more hp with lots of aftermarket potential (factory turbo). While they are very different vehicle (perhaps the Mazdaspeed3 would be a better comparison) I believe both cars represent some of the best values on the market and for the record, I'm torn between the two. My brain wants the utility and insurance rates of the Mazda3 but my heart wants the style and performance of the Genesis. Woah is me.

**EDIT** The 2.0L Genesis Coupe Track starts a $26,770 and Mazda3 is about a $1,000 cheaper with a manual so the price difference between them will be closer to $2,750.
 

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[quote author=Option01 link=topic=136547.msg2943020#msg2943020 date=1234904790]
[quote author=fixxer link=topic=136547.msg2942880#msg2942880 date=1234902263]
[quote author=metallurgist link=topic=136547.msg2942840#msg2942840 date=1234901624]
[quote author=boostedminime link=topic=136547.msg2942820#msg2942820 date=1234901212]
The new gt trims come with bi-Xenon headlights
[/quote]

yes but there is no mention of pricing for those trims.
[/quote]

I found the following

"Topping the range is the Mazda3 s Grand Touring ($22,300) in both four- and five-door flavors. While it's powered by the same 2.5L engine and automatic transmission, drivers are comforted by a segment-first eight-way driver seat and Adaptive Front-lighting System (AFS) with bi-xenon headlights."

So, a fully loaded GT will be
$22,300
+ $1,195 (Tech Package)
+ $1,395 (Moonroof/Bose)
---------
$24,980

That's much more than what I paid for my fully loaded GT back in 2006... or did I calculate it wrong?
[/quote]

I'm sure it's just bad writing but the Motortrend article you quoted seems to indicate that Sport and Grand Touring models come standard with automatic transimissions:

"An automatic 'box, 17-in. wheels and a Multi-Info Display are included in the trim level" - refering to Mazda3 s Sport

"While it's powered by the same 2.5L engine and automatic transmission" - refering to the Grand Touring

http://wot.motortrend.com/6475137/auto-news/2010-mazda3-pricing-begins-at-15045-highest-grand-touring-starts-at-22300/index.html

Also, while not really a direct competitor, you can get a 2.0L Genesis Coupe with the Track Package for about a thousand more and get most of the same amenities, along with a ten year powertrain warranty, rear wheel drive, Limited slip differential, bremo breaks, better gas milage (compared to Mazda's 2.5L) and 40 more hp with lots of aftermarket potential (factory turbo). While they are very different vehicle (perhaps the Mazdaspeed3 would be a better comparison) I believe both cars represent some of the best values on the market and for the record, I'm torn between the two. My brain wants the utility and insurance rates of the Mazda3 but my heart wants the style and performance of the Genesis. Woah is me.

**EDIT** The 2.0L Genesis Coupe Track starts a $26,770 and Mazda3 is about a $1,000 cheaper with a manual so the price difference between them will be closer to $2,750.
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yeah but coupes are useless to us real people.
 

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[quote author=metallurgist link=topic=136547.msg2943408#msg2943408 date=1234912911]
[quote author=Option01 link=topic=136547.msg2943020#msg2943020 date=1234904790]
[quote author=fixxer link=topic=136547.msg2942880#msg2942880 date=1234902263]
[quote author=metallurgist link=topic=136547.msg2942840#msg2942840 date=1234901624]
[quote author=boostedminime link=topic=136547.msg2942820#msg2942820 date=1234901212]
The new gt trims come with bi-Xenon headlights
[/quote]

yes but there is no mention of pricing for those trims.
[/quote]

I found the following

"Topping the range is the Mazda3 s Grand Touring ($22,300) in both four- and five-door flavors. While it's powered by the same 2.5L engine and automatic transmission, drivers are comforted by a segment-first eight-way driver seat and Adaptive Front-lighting System (AFS) with bi-xenon headlights."

So, a fully loaded GT will be
$22,300
+ $1,195 (Tech Package)
+ $1,395 (Moonroof/Bose)
---------
$24,980

That's much more than what I paid for my fully loaded GT back in 2006... or did I calculate it wrong?
[/quote]

I'm sure it's just bad writing but the Motortrend article you quoted seems to indicate that Sport and Grand Touring models come standard with automatic transimissions:

"An automatic 'box, 17-in. wheels and a Multi-Info Display are included in the trim level" - refering to Mazda3 s Sport

"While it's powered by the same 2.5L engine and automatic transmission" - refering to the Grand Touring

http://wot.motortrend.com/6475137/auto-news/2010-mazda3-pricing-begins-at-15045-highest-grand-touring-starts-at-22300/index.html

Also, while not really a direct competitor, you can get a 2.0L Genesis Coupe with the Track Package for about a thousand more and get most of the same amenities, along with a ten year powertrain warranty, rear wheel drive, Limited slip differential, bremo breaks, better gas milage (compared to Mazda's 2.5L) and 40 more hp with lots of aftermarket potential (factory turbo). While they are very different vehicle (perhaps the Mazdaspeed3 would be a better comparison) I believe both cars represent some of the best values on the market and for the record, I'm torn between the two. My brain wants the utility and insurance rates of the Mazda3 but my heart wants the style and performance of the Genesis. Woah is me.

**EDIT** The 2.0L Genesis Coupe Track starts a $26,770 and Mazda3 is about a $1,000 cheaper with a manual so the price difference between them will be closer to $2,750.
[/quote]

yeah but coupes are useless to us real people.
[/quote]

Oh please, just because your lifestyle requires you to drive a car with five doors doesn't make you more "real" than people who have more freedom in their car-buying choices. Besides, the "usefullness" of a given car is pretty relative. I bet members on an F350 forum would probably think your hatchback is pretty useless.
 

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I cannot understand sedans. They are an artifact of the past, like hood ornaments, or the ridiculous front/rear overhangs american luxury cars had to have to be appealing to buyers. Thankfully those things are now going away, but those of us that would like to have more choices of useful hatchback cars here in the US continue to have our options limited because Americans prefer to own sedans for no discernable practical reason, so the hatchback models get dropped from the line ups or never offered in the first place.

It apparently is an emotional thing.

There is no styling disadvantage to a well-designed hatch, and there is no engineering benefit for a sedan over a hatch since most modern cars have fold-forward seats and thus don't take advantage of a bulkhead behind the seats to stiffen the chassis.

A large majority of American buyers think a hatchback car is cheap. But they buy SUVs in huge numbers, which also have a hatch but somehow that is OK in that context. This makes no logical sense whatsoever. It also inexplicable why they prefer SUVs over a good minivan or a station wagon that would haul as many people, get better gas mileage, and be far more fun to drive. But the big lumbering truck-like SUV is kewl somehow.
 

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apparently your thought on sedans geewhiz is minute compared to the majority car owner...... lol..

I'm torn between a 2010 MazdaSpeed 3 or 2010 Ford Fusion (which has been already getting some great reviews from magazines)
 

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Should we expect any price drops to the 2009 models in march? I can't imagine the cash back and financing incentives could get much better than they are now...
 

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[quote author=fixxer link=topic=136547.msg2942880#msg2942880 date=1234902263]
[quote author=metallurgist link=topic=136547.msg2942840#msg2942840 date=1234901624]
[quote author=boostedminime link=topic=136547.msg2942820#msg2942820 date=1234901212]
The new gt trims come with bi-Xenon headlights
[/quote]

yes but there is no mention of pricing for those trims.
[/quote]

I found the following

"Topping the range is the Mazda3 s Grand Touring ($22,300) in both four- and five-door flavors. While it's powered by the same 2.5L engine and automatic transmission, drivers are comforted by a segment-first eight-way driver seat and Adaptive Front-lighting System (AFS) with bi-xenon headlights."

So, a fully loaded GT will be
$22,300
+ $1,195 (Tech Package)
+ $1,395 (Moonroof/Bose)
---------
$24,980

That's much more than what I paid for my fully loaded GT back in 2006... or did I calculate it wrong?
[/quote]Why buy that when you can get a current model speed 3 for 22,000.00
 

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I would be interested in a Ford Fusion, for example, if you could get one with a hatch. The Fusion is based on the Mazda 6 chassis. They didn't give it a powder puff ride; it retains the Mazda zoom-zoom.
 
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