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report on EBC yellowstuff

Per Adam3s's suggestion, I put EBC yellowstuff pads on my 06 mz3s. I do about 8-12 track days a year and last year ran Akebono Pro-Act/Euro ceramics. They were still good but I had a feeling I could get more from a real track pad.

For the first week while bedding them in they were actually too sticky - they were so touchy I didn't think I'd be able to heel/toe any more. They were also squeaky but there's a note right on the box that says they'll squeal until the "brake in" coating is gone.

This last weekend was first track day of the season at Putnam Park Road Course. The only other difference in the car is the addition of Hotchkiss rear sway bar (only is an understatement).

The brakes were freakin' amazing! In turn one I was braking nearly 100 feet later (from 100+mph) and with the new sway bar could carry a lot more speed. Results - new record time at Putnam cutting over a second from my old record time (1:28.3 vs 1:29.9). More importantly, lap times were consistent as was braking all the way through 30 minute stints. The tires fall off about 20 minutes in so I never had a chance to see if there was any brake fade.

I haven't driven much since Sunday (I bike to work) but I have noticed that they're still squeaking a bit, most likely because I haven't washed off the dust (I'm lazy).

A lot of the muscle cars that run with this group (10/10th Motorsports) run Hawks. Probably because I was thinking about brakes, they're freaking noisy! All in all, it was a great suggestion and I'm thrilled with the upgrade. Thanks to Adam3s!

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I just swapped over to EBC slotted and dimpled rotors and EBC Yellows as well.

They certainly made a ton of noise the first few weeks but they're beginning to quiet down.
Haven't had a chance to bed them yet since I'm breaking in the rotors simultaneously, but so far everyone seems to rave about the yellows.

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I just swapped over to EBC slotted and dimpled rotors and EBC Yellows as well.

They certainly made a ton of noise the first few weeks but they're beginning to quiet down.
Haven't had a chance to bed them yet since I'm breaking in the rotors simultaneously, but so far everyone seems to rave about the yellows.
I decided to keep the stock rotors and just had them turned. Last year a guy that races a 3speed said these cars are way overbraked - don't bother with rotors or calipers, though I thought seriously about slotteds just because they look so cool!

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Oh believe me; this is the first and last time I'll be going anything; maybe slots? doubtful.

These things make sooooo much whirring noises while going down the road; get near a wall and it's obnoxious!

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Aaron, glad to hear you had such positive results! As you noted the Yellows have considerably more bite (hot or cold) than the typical OE replacement pad so less pressure is required on the brake pedal to get the same result. It takes a little while to get used to, but once you do you'll never want to go back. Not only is initial bite much improved, overall braking power is way up as well so braking potential is only limited by how sticky of a tire you are running and the tires mechanical grip with the surface. I noticed that after some time and miles had passed and a few AX events, the pads became as silent as the OE pads and have stayed that way since. Hopefully your experience will be similar.
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Aaron, glad to hear you had such positive results! As you noted the Yellows have considerably more bite (hot or cold) than the typical OE replacement pad so less pressure is required on the brake pedal to get the same result. It takes a little while to get used to, but once you do you'll never want to go back. Not only is initial bite much improved, overall braking power is way up as well so braking potential is only limited by how sticky of a tire you are running and the tires mechanical grip with the surface. I noticed that after some time and miles had passed and a few AX events, the pads became as silent as the OE pads and have stayed that way since. Hopefully your experience will be similar.
I'm curious to know how long you've had them or guesses about life expectancy.

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I've had them on for about a year now and they have seen about 35 autocross events (I did a lot of events last year) and about 30K road miles (lots of regular driving too). They have about 50% life left in them. Before I put them on I was running Hawk HPS pads but wasn't real happy with them (they didn't seem to be any stronger than the OEM pads) and lacked feel and bite.
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I was thinking of getting the green stuff, is it worth the few extra dollars for the yellow?
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I was thinking of getting the green stuff, is it worth the few extra dollars for the yellow?
I don't have any direct experience with the Green pads, but I have read reviews and I do know they are EBC's entry level street pad (Similar to Hawk HPS pads). If you are expecting a significant improvement/difference from the OEM pads I think you will be disappointed with the Greens. I think EBC really got the formula right with the Yellows and they are a significant leap forward in performance while still remaining street friendly. I would say it's definitely worth it to step up to the yellows if you are looking for an upgrade in performance.
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I've had them on for about a year now and they have seen about 35 autocross events (I did a lot of events last year) and about 30K road miles (lots of regular driving too). They have about 50% life left in them. Before I put them on I was running Hawk HPS pads but wasn't real happy with them (they didn't seem to be any stronger than the OEM pads) and lacked feel and bite.
Wow, better than I expected

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