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Stock Class OMFG!!!!!

http://scca.cdn.racersites.com/prod/...april-solo.pdf


For those that don't want to read:

No more R Comps
Sway bars can be changed on both ends
Camber adjustment via camber plates or camber bolts allowed
No remote reservoir shocks
Wheels +/- 1 inch from stock


Plus, coming soon, a complete reorganization of the Stock Classes


My thoughts - overall good.

Don't know how I feel about the camber allowance. Not really a fan of having to run autocross camber levels on the street, but will provide better grip/tire wear.

Wheel allowance is okay. One of the arguments about R-Comps Vs Street tires has always been that R-Comps are available in more sizes where street tires are not. This will allow people to get to the 'hot' tire if it is not available in their OE wheel diameter.

The Sway Bar allowance will be expensive for those that want to go through the testing process.

No issue with the shock allowance (actually takeaway)

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Kind of makes me want to go enter and give it a try, im about 20 minutes from haverhill, where do you go?


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Kind of makes me want to go enter and give it a try, im about 20 minutes from haverhill, where do you go?

We run at the old airstrip at Devens in Ayer, MA. We also have one event this year at New Hampshire Motor Speedway.

First event is April 7.

Here is the link to the event. http://www.ner.org/solo/event/201304...1-solo-airways

Feel free to PM me, I can give you all the particulars.

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I like the changes. I submitted a letter to request also a +/- 1/2" change in wheel width from stock... mainly to open up more options for people. And face it, what is the one thing that even most non-car guys will change? Wheels. Plus it would allow some cars to stagger fitments if desired, or even possibly un-stagger wheels if it's no more than a 1" stagger.

If you agree with this I recommend you submit a letter as well.


I'm also unsure about the camber allowance, but it will help to promote more even tire wear so that's nice.
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I like the changes. I submitted a letter to request also a +/- 1/2" change in wheel width from stock... mainly to open up more options for people. And face it, what is the one thing that even most non-car guys will change? Wheels. Plus it would allow some cars to stagger fitments if desired, or even possibly un-stagger wheels if it's no more than a 1" stagger.

If you agree with this I recommend you submit a letter as well.


I'm also unsure about the camber allowance, but it will help to promote more even tire wear so that's nice.
The more I think about it, the less I like the camber allowance. Drilling holes in my daily driver (for camber plates) is not something that I want to think about. Talk about instant reduction in resale value. That is a huge cost on the back end to people competing in the 'Street' class. Every other 'mod' allowed is something that can be put back to Stock.

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I like it and it's something the sport needs. I'm kind of on the fence camber plate issue myself. Cutting up the strut towers not that appealing, but better grip and tire wear is....tough call.
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I'm an R comp fan, but can see the street tire argument.

I absolutely hate the camber idea and hate the idea of 2 bars.

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True, both bars and adjustable camber plates seems a little bit too much like ST to me.
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True, both bars and adjustable camber plates seems a little bit too much like ST to me.
...without the cool part of ST, which is slamming your car and adding wider wheels.

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Update -

Version 3 is now out there:


SS - Current SS minus Chevrolet Corvette C5 Z06, Chevrolet Corvette C6, and Dodge Viper. Added Honda S2000 CR. Added some exlusion list cars like the BMW Z8, Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 (2009-13), Dodge Viper (NOC), Ford Mustang Boss 302 Laguna Seca (2012-13), and Ford Mustang Cobra R.

AS - Current AS plus Chevrolet Corvette C5 Z06, Chevrolet Corvette C6, and Dodge Viper from SS. Minus Chevrolet
Corvette C5 (non-Z06), BMW 1M Coupe, and BMW Z4 (Coupe & Roadster).

BS - Current BS plus Chevrolet Corvette C5 (non-Z06), BMW 1M Coupe, and BMW Z4 (Coupe & Roadster). Mazda Miata MS-R, Pontiac Solstice ZOK, and Porsche Boxster up from CS.

CS - Current CS minus Mazda Miata MS-R, Pontiac Solstice ZOK, and Porsche Boxster and slower cars moved to ES.

DS - Current DS minus RWD cars moved to FS.

ES - Current ES plus Mazda Miata (1999-2005), Toyota MR2 Spyder, Z3, BMW M Coup, and BMW M Roadster from CS.

FS - Current FS plus RWD cars from DS.

GS - All current GS/HS cars combined.

Also:

-Camber allowance removed
-ST rules to be revised to allow for existing exhaust rules
-1" +/- from stock wheel diameter still part of V3


Not real happy that they are combining GS without removing the Mini's.

At least the camber allowance is gone.

Gonna write ANOTHER letter. A number of GS cars were moved down to HS to try to improve the class. None is faster than the Mini, which was faster than all of GS last year. Move the thing to DS.

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