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RTF + STF tires for 2013??

I ran Hankook RS-3's in STF last year and I'm looking at the Dunlop Zll's.What is everyone else looking at or getting?


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I've run both the Hankooks and Z1's on my Mazda3 (225/45/17). I found no significant difference in times between the two, and this was in H Stock Street Tire class on 17x6.5 wheels. Both tires would benefit greatly from a 7.5" wheel. I do know that the Dunlops perform better in cold conditions, while the RS3's tolerate heat a little better (been told they suck in cold conditions BTW).

The Tire Rack article comparing the ZI's to the ZII's implies that the ZII is a little superior in many categories. I see that the price has gone up on the ZII's 225's to around the $160 range; that may be a factor for many.

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I ran Hankook RS-3's in STF last year and I'm looking at the Dunlop Zll's.What is everyone else looking at or getting?


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I am deciding on the same two tires for mine. FWIW, I ran Hankooks on my STR Miata last season and never had any issues with them in colder conditions. There were a couple of events with temps in the 40s, and while the tires definitely do better in warm temps, they weren't terrible then. Given the cheaper price and better heat tolerance of the Hankooks (and our summer temps being well into the 90s for many events), I'm leaning toward those. I won't buy until next month, so I have some time to decide.
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New ST Tire

Here is the latest option for us ST guys.... BFG G-Force Rival. Tested well against current top 140+ tires........




See the Tire Rack site for more details (sizes, pricing, etc.). Reportedly Andy Hollis was involved in the testing, and likes them.

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It looks like the BFG is the tire to have at this minute, now we have to wait for the Kumho V720 to be tested.

Let the tire wars begin!


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That new BFG tire looks a lot like the old Kumho Victoracer r-comps.....




The BFG's look "shaved" out of the box with a shallower than usual tread depth. Perhaps it's just the pic, but that's what it looks like. People will probably squawk that they are "cheater tires." I already saw a discussion brewing on sccaforums. I'll probably give them a whirl and see how they do . I think I'll be running RTF full time this year. I've spent a sick amount of money on R-comps the last couple of years.... and I have a feeling RT classes will be only gaining more popularity while pure stock classes continue to dwindle.

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I am starting to seriously think about RTF this year, primarily because of the BFG.

My issue is that I have two perfectly good 245/45R16 BFG R1S with all of 12 runs on them. I'll need two more to match at $410 for the pair.

Or I sell the R1S's and buy 4 Rivals @ $572 for the set.

Anyone want a pair of R-Comps?

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Wasn't one of the original reasons for street tires to make the tire decision simpler? Well, that and tire cost.

Let's not forget that Bridgestone is introducing an updated RE-11 this year too. Don't look at it as having to decide on tires. Think if it as being lucky that you have so many awesome choices.

I think the best choice will depend entirely on the climate where you are. It does look like the BFG may be the one to have, but I can't endorse it just yet until I hear how it does in hot conditions. In the tests I've seen, the ambient temps have been low enough that they weren't a factor. Lincoln can be very warm around the first week of September...
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I am starting to seriously think about RTF this year, primarily because of the BFG.

My issue is that I have two perfectly good 245/45R16 BFG R1S with all of 12 runs on them. I'll need two more to match at $410 for the pair.

Or I sell the R1S's and buy 4 Rivals @ $572 for the set.

Anyone want a pair of R-Comps?
I'd get another pair of R1S tires and make a usable set, compete on them, and once they are toast make the transition to street tires and RTF. You'll take a huge hit on used tires (even with only 12 runs on them). Selling only 2 instead of 4 will make them a tougher sell as well and adversely affect what you will be able to get for them. Just keep'em and use them

I'm kind of in a similar situation, I have 4 R1S tires with about 12 runs on them and also a half used set of C51 Kooks both left over from last season. I'll use them up this season and then transition completely to street tires. With the amount of events I do, and also the possibility of my GF co-driving with me this year, it won't take too long to use up the race rubber. The last two seasons I have bought 9 sets of r-comp rubber
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Yep, I'd get another pair of R-comps. You can get full use of that set and then get a new set of whatever ends up being the best street rubber if you decide to go that way. Look at it this way: within the next few months, a "tire to have" will probably emerge, which will play out perfectly for you. You can go right from R-comps to the best street tire and save time & money.
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