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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old 04-27-2012, 04:12 PM Thread Starter
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Second Autox experience coming up.

This Sunday, I will be participating in my second AutoX. Regular mz3 in the STF class. During my first experience, my riders noted that I tend to hand over hand, which is slow on the wheel and a bad habit, and that I try to hold the car in corners too much. I realize I have braking issues as well.

On that particular course, there was a series of 3 almost 180 degree corners, which is where I was going hand over hand. How am I supposed to turn the wheel in these instances? Is it a matter of switching the hand to a different position on the steering wheel and throwing it further? Some good feedback on this would be appreciated.

With me holding the car in the turns, is this a matter of entering the turn too early therefore causing me to try and hold it in tight to get the line out I want, or a matter of speed? I realize that this is hard to determine without being there.

Finally, we didn't have a tight slalom, but the loose slalom felt quick enough. what do you experienced guys use as a reference as far as getting the car turning quick enough to clear the cone immediate to you, and setting up well for the next one. I realize its a rythem thing, but do you have a sight point or anything you can share?

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Re: Second Autox experience coming up.

On tight 180's I prefer to pre-position my hands so I can turn with out taking a hand off the wheel.

Slaloms -

You should have the steering wheel constantly in motion. In theory, as the car crosses the centerline you are turning back for the next cone. Most Noobies wait until they have gotten the car completely across the centerline, then turn.


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Re: Second Autox experience coming up.

Going along with what Paul said try to be "early" and try to backside the slalom cones which means you want that back tire right next to the cone as you're crossing over. Most people tend to get behind in slaloms (meaning they are turning too late) and that means they are going to hit cones or have to scrub lots of speed in order to not hit cones. Being early and establishing rythym will allow more speed through the slaloms.

The ideal hand position is the 9-3 position. Try to keep your hands there as much as possible. If you can't maintain 9-3 for sharp 180's for instance, then try to rely on a method that allows you to smoothly make the turn while maintaining control.
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Re: Second Autox experience coming up.

Here is a video...

STS 189 - TRSCCA 8-14-2011 - Run 7

It is a CRX and not a 3, so I was dealing with a lot slower steering and no power steering, but it was a pretty good run and you can see my hands.

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Slaloms -

You should have the steering wheel constantly in motion. In theory, as the car crosses the centerline you are turning back for the next cone. Most Noobies wait until they have gotten the car completely across the centerline, then turn.
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This was one of the small issues I need to improve on based on my first auto-x experience a few weeks ago...

I was really good at keeping the back tire right at the cone without hitting it... but I was turning too late so the line wasn't as smooth as it could be.

I was basically driving straight between the cones, then as my rear tire cleared it, I would turn.

Better thing to do is to turn in a bit sooner so that as your turn the opposite way... so that it transitions in one long and smooth flow of turns...

You want your line to look more like an "S" than a "W" if you understand what I mean.


I did a quick Google search and turned up a good link with info from Andy Hollis:

http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=44932


At least this is what I was told by someone who has been doing it for 20 years


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Re: Second Autox experience coming up.

Here's a little video of me and the owner of the car driving a Miata from back in 2010. It shows what the hands are doing pretty well

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Thanks for the videos guys. The event went well. I'm still slow in the STF class, but I feel like I actually drove the car on my 3rd and 4th runs. Bigger steering wheel inputs in the slalom got the back end working and I was able to carry more speed in other parts of the course by more aggressive braking. I had good in-car coaching on all of my runs, and from run 1 to run 4 I dropped about 6 seconds. We have a drivers school coming up that I plan on going to. It is a lot of fun to be out there driving the car...a lot better than commuting in it, thats for sure.

Here is a video of the course we ran that one of the top drivers did a break down on. It was a fun course.
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