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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 09-10-2009, 01:02 PM Thread Starter
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So what do you guys think? Im searching for something alittle more fun then the local autox. I cant afford the track time these days. Could be fun Im thinking, maybe install a hyd handbrake? Think the MS coilovers would like the dirt?
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Re: RallyX

It all depends on the site. Up here in New England, most of the sites are rocky. I won't rallycross my 3 because I fear a rock in the oil pan or other damage.

That being said, I know that some areas of the country have fairly level, hard packed dirt that is rock free and there is not as much chance of damage.

I would raise the car up though if you have coil overs.

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The Rally-X courses here in MI aren't that bad as far as rocks go. Most are in open fields before and after the growing season or are using part of a dirt short track. I've been to a few to watch and it looks very addicting. Especially that they run them all year and getting to play in the snow in a car sounds very enjoyable.

I just wish the SCCA Rally-X classes matched better to Solo rules.

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rallycross is fun as hell. Never done it in my 3 (I codrove a friends 93 sentra) but its really fun.

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I have done two in our Mazda 3. The car is quick in the stock FWD class. The torque of the 2.3 really helps it in the dirt. Our surface is old cotton fields - red and dusty but no rocks. It is a pretty smooth site too... Stock suspension seems to work fine for me, I use the e-brake to get the tail to rotate on the real tight stuff.

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Like others said, it depends on the location. I did it one time in a rental, well not a rental but a loaner when my car was in the shop. It wasnt a nice car, just an Avalon, but it was fun. It did alot more damage to the underbelly than I expected it to. But I imagine it was all superficial damage, as nothing broke on the car.
Not something i would do in a daily driven car.

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The plastic front underbelly of the 3 is pretty easy to take off. You could probably fab up a skid plate pretty easy. It would also provide a nice opportunity to move that inspection hole to actually line up with the filter; just put a plate over it. Something to deflect rocks down, away from the radiator, that might come through the lower grille, might also be good.

Tape off any glass lights or fogs.

Throw a little rockblocker from the door molding down.

The mid-muffler and gas tank are hopefully okay as-is.

The plastic supports on the rear bumper might get a snagged and pulled but you could probably patch it easily.

Being FWD we're spared needing major diff or transfer case protection.

All of that is probably cheaper than a hydraulic cylinder, lever, pivots and plumbing. I second that if you wanted to run coil-overs to run them high (but as low as you can afford).

Most entry Rallys are restricted to 2WD N/A anyway. Charity rallies can also be extremely fun and the terrain milder than an event.

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Ill be looking into skid plate options. I have mudflaps for the front, and run rears in the winter. Ill have to do some looking into what suby guys are doing with their cars.
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I highly recommend dirtyimpreza.com for that, or you can haunt nasioc.

rally armor and primitive make skid plates. not sure if they have anything geared our way though.
if you make your own, given the area our plastic ones cover, you'd want at least 1/8" for deflection and probably 3/16" around the oil pan. stamping some channels in for rigidity would help, or maybe you could tac some ribs on the inside. this would probably add a fair amount of weight to the front, but would be a low center of gravity.

i havent looked at good mounting points. since the stock skid plate attaches to those smaller left and right plastic covers and they just attach to the wheel well covers...its all plastic. in the back, im sure theres some good anchor points around the sub frame. you might be able to use those 12 and 21 to hold some standoffs for it. breakaway brackets or something.

the 3 shouldnt be too hard to shield underneath. as long as the radiator and oil pan are protected and the cat can breathe it should be all good.

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The only issue we have had with the under side of the car was the rear most exhaust heat shield came loose and got bent down. It was a simple fix. I would be very hesitant to run the car on a really bumpy, rocky surface.

If you have never tried rallycross, you need to. I have rallycrossed several cars - 2001 Neon ACR, 97 Neon, Stratus R/T, RX-7, Jetta, Tercel - even an F-150 pickup and they were all fun. You can pickup a beater car for a couple hundred bucks, snow tires are cheap and you get plenty of track time at most locations.

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