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2012 GT - Stock Bi-Xenon's not blue enough

When I first fire up my headlights in my 2012 Mazda 3 GT, they're really nice and blue. But once they're warmed up they're more of a white colour. I am accustomed to my aftermarket 6000k HID kit I put in my 2010 GS, as those stayed blue all the time. Is it normal for the stock HID's to turn white after a few seconds? Any way around this?
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Re: 2012 GT - Stock Bi-Xenon's not blue enough

Yes it's perfectly normal. OEM specification uses 4100/4300k bulbs.

These are the closest thing to natural sunlight. Yeah they're not as blue as your aftermarket rice-inspired 6000k bulbs, but they care far superior as far as illumination and general lighting shit up.
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Re: 2012 GT - Stock Bi-Xenon's not blue enough

I'm not sure 6000K is rice, 8000K with 55w ballast in a halogen fixture is rice tho. putting in 6000K with a 35W ballast in an actual HID projector gives a hint of blue but not like the blue coming from the dash LEDs. 5000K is pure white, sunlight has a hint of yellow to it like most headlights. You can go buy some bulbs that are 6000K and put those into your headlights, they will still be bright enough and far far better than the stock halogens in the non tech package.

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Re: 2012 GT - Stock Bi-Xenon's not blue enough

a 55watt ballast with 8000k will look like 6000k because the color gets washed out due the higher wattage.

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Re: 2012 GT - Stock Bi-Xenon's not blue enough

our cars come with Philips 85122+ bulbs, they start out at 4300k and don't colorshift to a more white/blue. Swap them out for another OEM bulb like the Philips 85122, Osram 66240. They start out at 4300k and colorshift to 5k. If you really want the best get Osram Cool Blue Intense, they start out at 5000k and stay there and are OEM bright. or Osram has a a 4300k bulb, the SVS that colorshifts to 5000k and is the brightest bulb on the market right now. stay away from aftermarket chinese bulbs of high color. check out hidplanet.com if you need more info on xenon.
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Now I'm even more dissapointed in the colour. Previously I didn't use the fogs because I felt they were too yellow in comparison to the HID's. But yesterday I replaced the stock halogen fogs with some beautiful LED's; now the HID's look quite yellow in comparison.

Now I'm even more motivated to get my headlights more blue. Like others have said, I don't want to rice them out to the point where they're tacky looking, or worse that they blind oncoming traffic. It's too bad Mazda doesn't make a stock 6000k or 8000k HID bulb. Any suggestions? I looked up the Osram Cool Blue Intense bulbs mentioned in the previous post, but they're halogen; I want HID.

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Now I'm even more dissapointed in the colour. Previously I didn't use the fogs because I felt they were too yellow in comparison to the HID's. But yesterday I replaced the stock halogen fogs with some beautiful LED's; now the HID's look quite yellow in comparison.

Now I'm even more motivated to get my headlights more blue. Like others have said, I don't want to rice them out to the point where they're tacky looking, or worse that they blind oncoming traffic. It's too bad Mazda doesn't make a stock 6000k or 8000k HID bulb. Any suggestions? I looked up the Osram Cool Blue Intense bulbs mentioned in the previous post, but they're halogen; I want HID.


Mazda doesn't use a 6000 or 8000k hid because that would be ridiculous. 4300k is optimal for visibility and not blinding other drivers.
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Osram CBI 5000K
http://www.theretrofitsource.com/pro...ducts_id=10591

Some other choice is 85122WX at 5700K but it 30% dimmer than 85122+ what you have in stock system.

Cheap white LED bulb uses 8000K - 10,000K rated white, there is no way match those.

If you care about lighting performance, Osram CBI will be nice white light to try, but I don't think any "blue" HID bulb that performs well.

Cheap aftermarket bulb gets too high chance of poor aligned ark(chamber shape itself is rough design can't get accurate ark anyway) unreliable quality consistency, and too much UV too.
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It's too bad Mazda doesn't make a stock 6000k or 8000k HID bulb. Any suggestions? I looked up the Osram Cool Blue Intense bulbs mentioned in the previous post, but they're halogen; I want HID.
It's not Mazda, all manufacturer will not use 6000k or 8000k bulbs. The bluer light doesn't do as good of a job at lighting up the road. And on top of that, the blue light is more strenuous on other drivers' eyes.
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Now I'm even more dissapointed in the colour. Previously I didn't use the fogs because I felt they were too yellow in comparison to the HID's. But yesterday I replaced the stock halogen fogs with some beautiful LED's; now the HID's look quite yellow in comparison.

Now I'm even more motivated to get my headlights more blue. Like others have said, I don't want to rice them out to the point where they're tacky looking, or worse that they blind oncoming traffic. It's too bad Mazda doesn't make a stock 6000k or 8000k HID bulb. Any suggestions? I looked up the Osram Cool Blue Intense bulbs mentioned in the previous post, but they're halogen; I want HID.

if i ever saw those hideous, ricey blue fogs, id straight up hit you head on...
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