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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 02-24-2011, 08:35 AM Thread Starter
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HID high beam question

I have a 2011 s hatch and Im thinking of changing to 35w 6000k hid low beams. I think im gonna go with Corksport's LED fog replacement . My question is if its possible to switch to HID high beams as well? I have noticed that most people here dont do this. I live in the the country so I use my brights alot. What are the positives and negatives of Hid high beams? Thanks.
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I have 55 watt HID high beams so it may be possible. I also drive in rural areas, with lots of critters on the road so I understand why you need as much light as you can get.

On the positive side the HIDs are very bright and definitely light up the road further than halogens or HIRs.

On the negative side it takes several seconds for the high beams to warm up and really make much light - like 5-8 seconds if they are cold.

I also found 4300K bulbs made the world look like an over-exposed photo, everything looked washed out with poor contrast. There was also quite a bit of glare from reflective surfaces like signs, puddles and ice. The effect was kind of like when someone takes a flash photo of you, when you see that floating blob of colour for a couple of minutes. I switched the high beams to 3000K bulbs and things are much better.
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Re: HID high beam question

The main negative, like balding geezer noted, is that HIDs take time to warm up to their normal operating temperature, and that turning HIDs on/off for short periods of time shortens the life of the ballast. Basically HIDs like being on for long periods of time, not turned on/off. If you're going to be out in the country with the highs on for extended periods then go for it. If not then you may want to consider simply raising your low beams up just a little bit to see if that helps you out.

I personally just have halogen high beams with my HID lows. Even though they aren't as "bright" they still light up further down the road than the low beams do when I need them to, and I don't have to worry about shortening the ballast life if I need to click them off quickly.


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Re: HID high beam question

Not to thread jack, but do they make halogen lights that mimic the light that HIDs produce? I'm wanting to replace both the highs and lows and it would really bug my anal side to have the highs and lows be different color temps.
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Yes, they do.



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I was looking on ebay and seen led high beam replacement bulbs. It said they were 6000k color temp. I have been debating these , hid lows, and led fogs.
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LED lights will not give you any useful illumination. They are OK for running lights, turn signals, brake lights etc but definitely are not suitable for head lights. For fog lights LEDs may be acceptable, but only if you just want the colour to match your head lights and don't need any actual illumination.
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[quote author=balding geezer link=topic=186781.msg3945366#msg3945366 date=1298664956]
LED lights will not give you any useful illumination. They are OK for running lights, turn signals, brake lights etc but definitely are not suitable for head lights. For fog lights LEDs may be acceptable, but only if you just want the colour to match your head lights and don't need any actual illumination.
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Just as a caveat some LEDs are suitable as headlights. Several cars on the market (or soon to be) have LED headlights. Those however are big ass awesome honking LEDs with big heatsinks and specially designed housings to make them project usefully.


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[quote author=icspots link=topic=186781.msg3945447#msg3945447 date=1298669359]
[quote author=balding geezer link=topic=186781.msg3945366#msg3945366 date=1298664956]
LED lights will not give you any useful illumination. They are OK for running lights, turn signals, brake lights etc but definitely are not suitable for head lights. For fog lights LEDs may be acceptable, but only if you just want the colour to match your head lights and don't need any actual illumination.
[/quote]

Just as a caveat some LEDs are suitable as headlights. Several cars on the market (or soon to be) have LED headlights. Those however are big ass awesome honking LEDs with big heatsinks and specially designed housings to make them project usefully.
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And they are coming out with some very strong aftermarket LED lights. A local has a pair in his high beams and the illumination they provide is impressive!

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[quote author=danielj link=topic=186781.msg3945451#msg3945451 date=1298669555]
[quote author=icspots link=topic=186781.msg3945447#msg3945447 date=1298669359]
[quote author=balding geezer link=topic=186781.msg3945366#msg3945366 date=1298664956]
LED lights will not give you any useful illumination. They are OK for running lights, turn signals, brake lights etc but definitely are not suitable for head lights. For fog lights LEDs may be acceptable, but only if you just want the colour to match your head lights and don't need any actual illumination.
[/quote]

Just as a caveat some LEDs are suitable as headlights. Several cars on the market (or soon to be) have LED headlights. Those however are big ass awesome honking LEDs with big heatsinks and specially designed housings to make them project usefully.
[/quote]

And they are coming out with some very strong aftermarket LED lights. A local has a pair in his high beams and the illumination they provide is impressive!
[/quote]

Yes, I've seen some LED headlights on exotic "supercars" and custom show cars. I assumed they were so bowel-emptyingly expensive I was justified in not mentioning them.
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