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Orion V2 for Mazda3 2010 Install Pictorial

We did our first install of a Mazda3 2010. And it's a little difficult - more difficult than the 2004-2009 version for sure, but doable.
http://umnitza.com/umnitza-predator-...a3-p-5843.html

To start with, the customer was very much not interested in maintaining the chrome look, so had us black out everything including the turn signal reflector. The next issue we ran into was that the parts would not fit properly unless you were creative with the high beam ring, so we were (had no choice really).

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Fantastic job. Not diggin the baby blue looking headlights and fogs but the angel eyes look damn good.
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Diggin' it, but I got a few questions. Already posted this on your other thread, but I figured posting technical questions would make more sense here:

[quote author=GrifN link=topic=183237.msg3877113#msg3877113 date=1291729474]
Lookin' sick. Couple questions, though.

1.) How'd you get the housing apart? Some people recommend baking, some recommend heat gun. What did you (the professional) do?
2.) Doesn't painting the housing (namely the reflective parts) create MUCH less light?
3.) How'd you get the paint to stick to the reflective parts of the lamp?
4.) Once painted, did you do anything to cure it (other than wait)? I've heard of baking the light to cure the paint. Is this recommended?
5.) You mentioned having to "get creative" with the high beam light. Is this something you plan to fix before selling to market, or is everyone going to have to "get creative"?
6.) What'd you use to attach the halo's? I would assume clear RTV?
7.) How'd you get the housing back together? Again, baking? heat gun? was the glue tacky enough to just press back together? or did you have to add sealant/glue?
8.) What temperature lights is that guy running? Really blue, compared to the halo's. What temperature would you recommend our HIDs be, if we wanted them to match the halo's? I've heard that 8000K matched some LEDs, but I was looking at 5000K. What would you recommend?
9.) Could you link to this product on your site? I'd like to see pricing on these, and possibly place an order (depending on your answers to the above-mentioned questions)...
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Fantastic job. Not diggin the baby blue looking headlights and fogs but the angel eyes look damn good.
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[quote author=GrifN link=topic=183237.msg3877113#msg3877113 date=1291729474]
Lookin' sick. Couple questions, though.

1.) How'd you get the housing apart? Some people recommend baking, some recommend heat gun. What did you (the professional) do?

This turns out to be the most difficult part of the install. This headlight is the largest headlight we've ever worked with. Not depth, not width, but length. It was too long to fit into our relatively oversized oven. We even joked that we could have used a pizza oven to really do a good job. But we do recommend frequent turning of the headlight in the oven @ 200-250 Degrees on BAKE for no more than 20 minutes. If you can fit the headlight completely in the oven, then you are going to save a LOT of time, as it was, it took us nearly 1 hour per headlight to open, normally, it takes only 20 minutes.
2.) Doesn't painting the housing (namely the reflective parts) create MUCH less light?
Not on the projector, so the headlight output doesn't change, and we didn't paint the reflective housing of the high beam. Only the turn signal area, which will definitely provide less turn signal light
3.) How'd you get the paint to stick to the reflective parts of the lamp?
We use a high heat paint, and it just sticks, there isn't much to it and there isn't any priming. In fact, if you want, you can get the same effect with just a black primer.
4.) Once painted, did you do anything to cure it (other than wait)? I've heard of baking the light to cure the paint. Is this recommended?
Well, waiting is a good idea But yes, once the headlight is back in the oven for another 30-50 minutes to close it up, it cures in there as well.
5.) You mentioned having to "get creative" with the high beam light. Is this something you plan to fix before selling to market, or is everyone going to have to "get creative"?
Creative simply means it was something new for us to do. Basically it's going to be like this for the full release. You will run a small bead of glue along the bar that is the cross bar for the high beam ring and attach it to the top of the high beam housing, then just let it sit for a 30 minutes while you do other stuff.
6.) What'd you use to attach the halo's? I would assume clear RTV?
RTV takes too long to cure. We used "Beacon1" QuickGrip - it's available for $4-5 a tube from JoAnn's or Michaels' arts supply place. A tube will last you 3 years if you just put it on small stuff. The stuff is strong, seals quickly, and can be removed without damage to any components it sticks to except plastic. Plastic it fuses together (which is good in most cases).

7.) How'd you get the housing back together? Again, baking? heat gun? was the glue tacky enough to just press back together? or did you have to add sealant/glue?

Line it up right, close it, then put it back into the oven, once it's hot enough, use clamps and it closes right back up, put the remaining 3 screws that hold it in place back on and you're done.

As an FYI - this is a KOTTO manufactured headlight. The same exact headlights on just about every car. So the install procedure is almost identical for all of them, Scion, Mazda3, Acura (though many use Stanley), and some others.


8.) What temperature lights is that guy running? Really blue, compared to the halo's. What temperature would you recommend our HIDs be, if we wanted them to match the halo's? I've heard that 8000K matched some LEDs, but I was looking at 5000K. What would you recommend?

He's got 6000K, we took the pictures when they were warming up so that it would be more of a contrast and more visually striking. I recommend 6000K, it's the best mix and we can provide you with that. The angel eyes are all 6000K as you can see in the first and second picture under "how they look"

9.) Could you link to this product on your site? I'd like to see pricing on these, and possibly place an order (depending on your answers to the above-mentioned questions)...
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Link to the product is the very first sentence, here it is again:
http://umnitza.com/umnitza-predator-...a3-p-5843.html

PS: Some Last Notes
1) It's easier than it seems - the only difficult part of the whole install was a) baking and b) patience to let the glue set.
2) The blackening of the housing was not including the outer amber reflector - wanted to keep it legal - but you can do it if you want.
3) The blackening of the housing is not necessary but it does help the contrast
4) These are the same Orion V2 rings you saw on the 2004-2009 (as stated above) which means, they are indestructible, water proof, and will last a very very long time.
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Re: Orion V2 for Mazda3 2010 Install Pictorial

Im impressed now they just need to make them for the xenon models.

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they work for xenon equally well.
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just out of curiosity how? because the xenon setup has a different internal as the highbeam and lowbeam are the same projector as they are bixenon


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The size of the low beam would work as a single ring - same size.
You simply wouldn't use the high beam.
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