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Factory Halogen to Factory Bi-Xenon swap

This is one of my first posts, and I tried doing a quick search, but couldn't find much on the topic. That being said:

I have some trouble seeing at night with standard halogen bulbs. Has anyone done a swap of the factory halogen lamp to the optional factory bi-xenon lamps? Or does anyone know how much the bi-xenon set-up costs? Also, I've heard of some of these self-leveling/swivelling lamps being tied into the suspension. Is this the case for 2010/2011 MZ3s? Anything additional needed (wiring, sensors, etc)?

I wasn't able to get the bi-xenon lights with my 2011 3s Sport, but I like the looks and functionality of the bi-xenon system that comes stock. I don't want to just do a bulb swap -- I like the swivelling and auto-leveling features, too. Can anyone point me in a good starting direction?

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Re: Factory Halogen to Factory Bi-Xenon swap

I would guess that if you wanted to get the AFS system you'd have to go to the dealer, I haven't come across anyone mentioning an aftermarket option for AFS lighting system.

As for the stock halogens to bi-xenons, you could just go to HID bulbs/ballasts. I had the same problem with my 2010 Sport Hatch. The halogens were really bad, so I upgraded to HID lights and I love it. FYI, the bulb size is H11.


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Re: Factory Halogen to Factory Bi-Xenon swap

[quote author=Fugly16 link=topic=181040.msg3831484#msg3831484 date=1287431459]
I would guess that if you wanted to get the AFS system you'd have to go to the dealer, I haven't come across anyone mentioning an aftermarket option for AFS lighting system.

As for the stock halogens to bi-xenons, you could just go to HID bulbs/ballasts. I had the same problem with my 2010 Sport Hatch. The halogens were really bad, so I upgraded to HID lights and I love it. FYI, the bulb size is H11.
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Yeah, I assumed I'd have to go to the dealer to get the AFS system. It just wasn't in the cards to get the car already equipped with that (does a MZ3s Sport even have that option? I thought it was only for the GT models?). So I wanted to do an upgrade. Obviously, if it's going to cost me $1000+ for the AFS bi-xenon swap, it's PROBABLY not worth it (though, I really like the swivelling feature). I knew about the HID conversion, but thanks for the clarification on the bulb size. I'm thinking 35w and either 6000k or 8000k. I want the whitest of whites -- I've had yellow lights for far too long...

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Re: Factory Halogen to Factory Bi-Xenon swap

Between 6k and 8k I'd go with 6k. I have 6k. There's a slight hue of blue but it's not completely rice.

If you're aiming for the most white you can get then 4500k is what you want, which is the stock HID color for 35W. I definitely recommend doing that though instead of AFS. I'm sure the AFS upgrade (if it's even possible) would be an arm and a leg lol.


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Or maybe 5k is the whitest. I forget.


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Re: Factory Halogen to Factory Bi-Xenon swap

Did a quick bit of research. 4500k is considered "off white", 5000k is considered "pure white", and 6000k is considered "bright white with slight blue tint". I think I'll be going with the 5000k. Hopefully I can get the AFS system without breaking the bank...

The question still remains: does anyone know how integrated the AFS system is? Does it tie into the suspension? Would I need any additional sensors or anything of the sort?

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Even without the parts to get the swiveling/leveling, just purchasing the OEM headlight housing for the bi-xenon's would set you back at least $1000. OEM headlight housings are expensive, even if you were just getting replacement halogen housings.
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No reasonable way retrofitting AFS headlight system in my opinion.

It probably cheaper trade in yours and purchase used good condition 2010 with AFS option.

AFS basically involves speed sensor signal, steering angle sensor signal, then those are converted at either PCM or light control unit.
(many case linked wiht GPS too) and system re-write or replace AFS ver. needed etc... basically, electical system swap.

related componet amount will be huge.

I even doubt if any of dealer have idea how they can convert, but if you can order all related parts needed at dealer, although I haven't see EPC to back up my guess, parts itself probably goes easily over $$5000.
MSRP about: Headlight assy $900 each
: Ballast $400 each
: bulb $250 each ballst and bulb can be found cheaper,,but if you go at dealer, headlight R and L already cost over $3000
And auto-leveling sensor is aobut $500 and mouting is aobut $470

Beside this, you will need harness swap( which they don't sell locally, probably dealer syas need entire front harness swap(=over $1000~)

And if you ask them to make it work, can't imagine how much labor they will charge as they must not have "retrofitting(=modify)work manual.










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You may be able to find the headlight assemblies used and they come with the swivel units. The matter of hooking them up will be the tricky part. Yes you will need level sensors that connect to the control arms along with all the wiring. It is the automatic level sensing unit. Now on the previous generation model I hooked up the mannual levelling system myself which was very simple. Well with exception to the power wire for the switch to make the motors move as the pjb didnt have the power pin their. I dont see why this should not be possible

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[quote author=GrifN link=topic=181040.msg3831745#msg3831745 date=1287443799]
Did a quick bit of research. 4500k is considered "off white", 5000k is considered "pure white", and 6000k is considered "bright white with slight blue tint". I think I'll be going with the 5000k. Hopefully I can get the AFS system without breaking the bank...

The question still remains: does anyone know how integrated the AFS system is? Does it tie into the suspension? Would I need any additional sensors or anything of the sort?
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I have the AFS system in my Mazdaspeed and it is definitely tied into a few sensors (steering position, and directional speed at least). I can't imagine it would be easy to install this in a non AFS equipped vehicle. There is also an override switch inside the cabin to turn the AFS off.

DDM Tuning sold me an HID kit for my fog lights for about $50 shipped... you can't beat that price and the quality is superb!


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