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Condensation in Headlights after HID install

I just recently installed Apexcone 55 watt 8K to the low beam (H11) lights. I have no idea what could have cause condensation inside the headlights, and have already double checked the bulb and it has a very tight seal (it is not lose at all).

Anybody is experiencing this at all? How can I solve this issue?

I have not installed the HID kit to the fog lights (also H11), due to this incident. I am not sure were to look first.

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Re: Condensation in Headlights after HID install

Is the condensation constant or intermittent?

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Re: Condensation in Headlights after HID install

Did you put the rubber dust cap back on.

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Re: Condensation in Headlights after HID install

The condensation is most noticeable early in the morning. If the day gets above 70F it will go away. I live in Florida.

The weird thing is, it only happens with one of the headlights, not both. Therefore I am inclined to say it is a warranty issue and the lamp was deffective since the beggining. However, I am still wondering if it is not warranty then what should I do to eliminate it, or is it normal for this to happen when you exchange any bulbs of any type?


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Re: Condensation in Headlights after HID install

When I took out the original out from the socket it had no dust cap. The M3 2008 model (the one I had previously) did have this dust cap (black) that goes on after the bulb is installed.
However, on this install I saw no cap at all to be re-installed. Did not remove anything, except the light bulb itself.

The red rubber that came with the HID bulb is also installed which I figure is to create a seal.
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Re: Condensation in Headlights after HID install

My friend installed hids in his mazda 6 and didn't put the dust caps back on and now he has condensation in both headlights. I'd let the lights dry out and then get some new dust caps.

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Re: Condensation in Headlights after HID install

The new mazda 3 2010 5 door does not have this dust Cap. However the weird thing is that only one headlight has the condensation. I will try with a hair dryer and see if I can get the extra condensation out just in case it entered while I was replacing the bulb.

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My friend installed hids in his mazda 6 and didn't put the dust caps back on and now he has condensation in both headlights. I'd let the lights dry out and then get some new dust caps.
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Re: Condensation in Headlights after HID install

For H11 bulb aplication, they usually don't have dust cap that is covering around the bulbs like previous model since H11 bulb itself have o-ring rubber gasket and it creat seal when bulb is twist into place( projector bulb insert base)

So if bulb is designed properly, seal to the projector's bulb inseet base should be OK.

However,,there is one another seal you need to check.
Most of H11 application headlight design should have rubber boots around projectors bulbinsert base that is covering opening between projector bulb base and housing(similer stuff you see in HB3 high beam reflector bulb insert base rubber boots)

Check to see above two seal is in place proper as well as turn signal bulbs insert just in case.


There can be minor condensation issue at extreme temprature changed but should not be regular issue.


If condensation regularly persist after checking seal AROUND bulb insert base,
I would start checking from by switching bulbs back to original halogen temporary to see if seal problems at bulb itself gasket or some other place.

If that solves problem, bad designed bulbs.
If not, that will be time to suspect other seal( headlgiht itself, air vent tube insert at right angle..etc..)





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Re: Condensation in Headlights after HID install

Thanks for the tip, I will inspect the seals you are refering to. Also, if that looks well, will try with the old bulb and see if that helps....
Last option I guess is just take it to the dealer.


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For H11 bulb aplication, they usually don't have dust cap that is covering around the bulbs like previous model since H11 bulb itself have o-ring rubber gasket and it creat seal when bulb is twist into place( projector bulb insert base)

So if bulb is designed properly, seal to the projector's bulb inseet base should be OK.

However,,there is one another seal you need to check.
Most of H11 application headlight design should have rubber boots around projectors bulbinsert base that is covering opening between projector bulb base and housing(similer stuff you see in HB3 high beam reflector bulb insert base rubber boots)

Check to see above two seal is in place proper as well as turn signal bulbs insert just in case.


There can be minor condensation issue at extreme temprature changed but should not be regular issue.


If condensation regularly persist after checking seal AROUND bulb insert base,
I would start checking from by switching bulbs back to original halogen temporary to see if seal problems at bulb itself gasket or some other place.

If that solves problem, bad designed bulbs.
If not, that will be time to suspect other seal( headlgiht itself, air vent tube insert at right angle..etc..)
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Re: Condensation in Headlights after HID install

sorry I can't help you with ur problem, but can you post some pictures of the headlights and the fog lights after you've done installing the HID kits ? I want to see how to they look .. thank you

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