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post #11 of 25 (permalink) Old 09-27-2005, 05:47 PM
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Re: RECALL!

lol
I just saw this too. Maybe we'll get them back quickly now. Wonder who those 3 drivers were who didn't notice they were turning 6000 RPMs cruising on the freeway?

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post #12 of 25 (permalink) Old 09-27-2005, 06:38 PM Thread Starter
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6,000? Geez. I can imagine it was higher than 6,000 RPM. Second gear!


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post #13 of 25 (permalink) Old 09-28-2005, 09:09 AM
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Freakin' unbelievable!! The cars are so quiet, I'm not surprised it's happened. It's difficult to sense what gear you're in in manual mode unless you look at the indicator. I imagine the scenario... zip around the on-ramp in manual, get on the freeway and into traffic, forget you're in manual, forget to shift, 20 miles later it's "Oh crap, I've been in second all this time!!???" Duh. But... why re-calibrate the trans? Why not a LOCKOUT? Press the lockout button to enter the manual area of the gate!! The trans seems to work fine, so why screw with the calibration for that? It's probably a good thing to have extra shielding, that's extreme operation bordering on abuse, but probably not the only situation that might heat the exhaust.

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post #14 of 25 (permalink) Old 09-28-2005, 09:20 AM
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Anybody else feel like going to the dealer and demanding their car back? I think I'm more concerned about the potential quick-fix than the potential for fire now.

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post #15 of 25 (permalink) Old 09-28-2005, 02:50 PM
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Which means that their fix is going to be downrate the max rpm before it forces a shift.
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post #16 of 25 (permalink) Old 09-29-2005, 01:37 PM
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Which means that their fix is going to be downrate the max rpm before it forces a shift.
Probably only in manual mode. The auto mode really winds it out before shifting at WOT. Hope they don't diminish performance because a few chuckleheads can't tell the position their shifter's in. This was bound to happen though. The sequential shifter is really a sports car type setup. Your typical family wagon driver just doesn't expect to have that to consider. It isn't like the lever's at the 2nd gear position, like the old style. Just 1/2" to the left.

I certainly don't want some stupid looking idiot sticker on mine... too dumb.
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post #17 of 25 (permalink) Old 09-29-2005, 07:22 PM Thread Starter
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I'm pissed about the delay - my car isn't an automatic, I don't need the sticker and I would never redline the engine in second gear. I hope Mazda ponies up some kind of extended warranty or something.


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post #18 of 25 (permalink) Old 09-29-2005, 07:57 PM
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I'm kinda pissed at the thought of (possibly) being without my 5 for another month too, but let's think about this for a minute. Mazda had reports of fires. They didn't know the cause. They decided it was in everybody's best interest to recall them and figure it out. Now that they have found the cause, they need to test and make sure the same thing won't happen in other configurations and situations. I'm sure they have now done some extended runs at redline in every gear in both trannies and probably other engine combos not available in the NA market too. When they are happy with those results, they'll make the determination about what needs to be done. Maybe they'll find the same thing happens in the manuals too. It might require a sticker, a transmission reflash (on the A/T) and/or a new or additional heat shield. Maybe they could give them back to us with the condition that we agree to not drive them in the offending manner to release liability, but I don't know if that will work. I'd love it if they had it ready tomorrow, but I'm willing to wait a bit to make sure they do it right so I don't have to go through this again in the near future. And as far as additional compensation goes, an extended warranty would be nice, or free maintenance for a few years, but I doubt they'll pop for that considering the millions they're already spending on rentals/loaners.

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post #19 of 25 (permalink) Old 09-30-2005, 11:30 AM Thread Starter
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Rest assured, letters are being drafted to Mazda Canada.


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post #20 of 25 (permalink) Old 10-04-2005, 06:28 PM
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I just got off the phone with my dealer and it looks like I'm picking mine up tomorrow morning. Apparently enough of us have contacted Mazda that they now have a form that is e-mailed from Mazda to your dealer that releases liability and you can then pick up your car until the fix is ready. Hopefully rentals/loaners will be available when we eventually need them. I'm taking the approach that as long as this is the real problem and avoiding redlining the engine for extended periods of time will prevent the fires, I am willing to live with the "defective" vehicle until the parts come in. I'm not going to say it's the best solution for everybody, but I'd rather have my vehicle in my garage than in the dealer's open service lot. I already have a fire extinguisher for my car (less than $20) and plan on limiting my extended drives for the next few weeks, but this will make me feel better overall. I applaud Mazda for acting swiftly to protect owners from a potential problem. Better to overreact than not act at all in my eyes. Now that they feel the cause has been identified they are being smart in allowing owners to have their vehicles back. If you are going to try this be prepared for some moderate scare tactics. I have heard a lot of: "Don't you have a nice loaner? Wouldn't you feel safer just in case...? Why take a chance? If you're concerned about your car being here you can come by..." etc. Just be firm and polite and they should help you out. After all, we are saving them money on the loaners in the meantime.

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