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BSD how-to by me :D
« on: April 09, 2006, 10:32:38 PM »
Balance Shaft Removal Kit Install

Required Tools                                                                                  Required Materials:6 Quarts Oil  (I suggest Amsoil or Motul)
3000+lb. Floor Jack or Ramps                                                                       Motorcraft FL-910 Oil Filter
(2) Drain Pans                                                                                            Purolator PL15505 Oil Filter
Oil Filter Wrench                                                                                         Permatex Ultra-Grey Silicone Gasket Maker or Victor razin
Gasket Scraper
Ratchet(s)
6" Extension
8mm Socket (Deep)
10mm Socket
13mm Socket
15mm Socket
18mm Socket
21mm Socket
Bear, good friends and time :D
   
A small word before starting
If you are the average guy how knows about the engine a bit but never worked on a engine forget it its freaking complicated, if will do the mod I will worn you now if you will do it in the garage while lying on the back its going to be difficult and you will taste some oil, dirt will fell in your eyes and your hair you contain oil … me I think I was lucky and I was crazy when I made the decision
I find bsd very very very very complicated and not for the week of heart

Ok lets start

If you want to fell the difference between the before and the after BSD i recommend you NOT to reset the ECU.


1.  I used one of those to jack up my car so i can work underneath it


2.Remove splash shield 6x12mm screws– No need for pictures and explanation here

3.Drain oil 1x17mm screw – place drain pain under the oil pan and remove the drain plug to drain the engine oil.  Let drain completely.  Replace plug and tighten.  Remove drain pan from work area. A small advice if you have run the car before the install let the engine cool down or you will get burn from the hot oil.

4.Unbolt A/C Protector and A/C Compressor and rest it on a jack, or leave it hanging. 3 nuts 12mm for the metal plate that protects the compressor and 4 very long bolts 12mm for the ac compressor


5.Unbolt and remove oil pan. I have attached a schematic of the oil pan and the bolts disconnect the bolts in REVERS ORDER from 13 to 1. All the screws that go vertically are 10mm the 3 screws that go horizontally into the tranny are 17mm, and the 4 screws that are on the passenger and go horizontally are 8mm screws



Now after removing the screws right next to the oil filter there was a small gap put a flathead screw driver and pry the oil pan off


6.With the oil pan removed, remove the 2 long screws that hold the oil pickup, the black tube and remove the oil pickup. Put the pickup aside in and keep it clean


7.Remove 4x10mm bolts that hold the balance shaft assembly from the block.  Use caution as the balance shaft assembly is heavy (18lbs, 8.1 kg) if you do the operation on the back trust me that thing is freaking heavy. Set the assembly aside. A lot oil will spill when you take out the shaft from the hole that the kit will go on. If you place the bsd right under the car you will see that one of the legs (lack of a better word) that where attaching the balance shaft on the block a small secondary hole that was the oil feed for the balance shaft now look on the block you will see the extra hole right in front of the oil filter.


8.Place Cosworth Balance Shaft delete plate with O-ringed bung into the oil supply port used by the balance shaft assembly.

Before the cosworth


After the cosworth



9.Use a small amount of Red Loctite on the attachment bolt and secure the plate to the block.  The bolt should be torqued to 20ft/lbs.

10.Reinstall the oil pick-up tube and torque 8-10ft/lbs. WARrniNG I scraped a screw here don’t use more power then brain the screw will broke. I had a nice neighbor that made me a custom screw.

11.Use the Gasket Scraper (a razor blade will do in a pinch) to remove any old sealant from the block and oil pan mating surfaces. A trick that my father teach me (after giving me the shit for opening the engine :D) put some gasoline on the old sealant it works perfectly the old sealant just peeled off by its self.  Use a clean rag to remove any oil from the mating surfaces on the oil pan.

12.Sparingly apply Ultra-Grey Silicone to the oil pan sealing surfaces.  The best method is to smear the silicone across the surface evenly with your finger.  DO NOT USE EXCESSIVE AMOUNT OF SILICONE!  Excess will simply squeeze out when the pan is tightened and make a mess!  Excess inside the oil pan can get loose and clog the pickup or get caught in moving parts.
The underlined text is a copy from marcymotorsports install I call it bs
From the service manual fallow the line of the oil pan and put the silicon gasket the silicon line has to be min 2.2mm and max 3.5mm don’t use the finger to spread the silicon just by tightening the oil pan the silicon will spread out.
BEFORE APLYNG THE GASKET DO A TEST FIT FOR THE INSTALL OF THE OIL PAN IN MY CASE I REMOVED THE GUN PIECE THAT ATACHES THE TRANNY TO THE REAR ENGINE MOUNT 3X19MM SCREW cause was in the way. IF EVERIGHING OK TRY AGAIN once the silicon is on the oil pan you have to be fast and there is no second try you miss you have to redo the gasket.

13.Reinstall oil pan.  Tighten bolts in the following order at 12-16ft/lbs

14.Place a drain pan under the oil filter.  Remove the old filter and install the new one.

15.Pour 3 quarts of oil into the engine.  Check for leaks.  Add 2 additional quarts if there are no leaks.

16.Reinstall A/C Compressor and protector at 13-19ft/lbs.

17.Reinstall splash shield 6x12mm.

18.Go take a shower, whatever just let the car and silicon dry for a least 1 h

19.Start the engine but don’t rev-it  let it warm completely and the stop the engine

20.check for oil leaks under the car….none then go zoom zoom

Hope this helps, special thnx to Philidonis, Brian aka MrTea, Flo a friend of mine, theBeansolider, Goldfish and to my father who even if he was very pissed off on me cause I opened the engine he helped me Thank you.










« Last Edit: April 10, 2006, 07:47:09 AM by hate_romania »
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Re: BSD how-to by me :D
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2006, 11:23:23 PM »
glad you got it all done man!  i was a bit worried since i missed a call from you after i got to work, but looks like it ended up ok.
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Re: BSD how-to by me :D
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2006, 02:20:42 AM »
Righton, grats on the install.
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Re: BSD how-to by me :D
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2006, 02:32:16 AM »
Props for the how to.  Does not look horribly hard but being on your back trying to work on it would be a bitch.  Good work  :D

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Re: BSD how-to by me :D
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2006, 03:26:38 AM »
..that damn thing weighs soo much when you are laying down there by yourself without anyone to help hold it!!!

seemed to find that the spin-on conversion (at least on the 6) was less obtrusive that the cartridge system when removing the oil pan as well.  also, any input on removing the pan in regards to the rear mount, or was that not an issue after all?  and i'd also recommend removing the 2 8mm bolts that hold the dip stick tube onto the intake manifold to get that out of the way, only issue is it's bitch to get the bottom one back on sometimes.
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« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2006, 05:41:31 AM »
Great job on the pics and write up, Alex :goodjob:



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Re: BSD how-to by me :D
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2006, 07:43:34 AM »
..that damn thing weighs soo much when you are laying down there by yourself without anyone to help hold it!!!

seemed to find that the spin-on conversion (at least on the 6) was less obtrusive that the cartridge system when removing the oil pan as well. also, any input on removing the pan in regards to the rear mount, or was that not an issue after all? and i'd also recommend removing the 2 8mm bolts that hold the dip stick tube onto the intake manifold to get that out of the way, only issue is it's bitch to get the bottom one back on sometimes.

removing the filter from the block helps alot, but the main prob that i had was the gun piece that ataches the trany to the engine mount, cause of it i wasn't able to install the oil pan from one shot. If you have to remove that one put a juck under the tranny and preare yourself i have never ever seen screws tight so hard.
o yea forgot to tell about the dipstick...on the 3 is only 1x8mm screw not 2 very easy accesible from under the car
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Re: BSD how-to by me :D
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2006, 07:49:31 AM »
Great job on the pics and write up, Alex :goodjob:



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thx
you hellped me by providing a basic how to that give me a ideea what i have to do then i added my opinoins about the install, my picts and here is it, thx
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Re: BSD how-to by me :D
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2006, 12:30:54 PM »
Little tip on the oil pickup tube.

Remove one bolt, and loosen the other so it pivots out of the way.  That way, you can't forget to reinstall it.  If you remove it, make sure it goes back.  I know of one engine where the owner forgot to reinstall the pickup tube.  Needless to say, the engine wasn't happy.
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Re: BSD how-to by me :D
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2006, 02:10:49 PM »
how exactly does this mod work/help
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Re: BSD how-to by me :D
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2006, 02:40:37 PM »
how exactly does this mod work/help
it removes weights that was comsuming engine power it dosn't necesarly adds power it just frees the engine so it can rev faster
the engine res faster and drops rpm faster then normaly
tehnicly should be giving better fuel economy cause there is no parasitic loss of the engine power
my car for what ever reason its slower now then philidonis car before i was beting him by like a halp of a car now he beats me, i will reset my ecu to see what happens
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« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2006, 04:44:27 PM »
That's just because you shift like a girl.  :lol:

Glad to have helped man, btw your writeup is amazing.
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« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2006, 04:55:11 PM »
nice writeup, hate_romania!  How does the engine feel since you did the mod?  I just ordered one of these a few days ago, and I'm hoping there's a noticable difference in how freely the engine revs.
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« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2006, 05:59:40 PM »
nice writeup, hate_romania! How does the engine feel since you did the mod? I just ordered one of these a few days ago, and I'm hoping there's a noticable difference in how freely the engine revs.
yes the enine revs more freely, it make a souns at 2100rpm but no vibration same thing on phil's car, starting the engine nd stopon the engine it feels direct cause there is no more weight that keeps momentum, the engine more alive and don't now fr what reason my car vibrates alot less and i have the awr mount
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« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2006, 06:07:04 PM »
time to update your sig buddy  8)
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« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2006, 08:26:39 PM »
oh yea, i forgot i made a small write up... glad to know everything's working great.
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« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2006, 08:27:17 PM »
This is the link to our kit install instructions. This might help someone but the install looks alot worse than it actually is.

http://www.sportcompactindustries.com/pubdocs/SCIBSD.pdf
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« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2006, 12:11:31 AM »
I purchased the kit and the external oil filter kit from 909. It was a very informative install with great pics and info. If used with the above info no one should have any problems. Dealing with Sport Compact Industries was a great experience. I sent the owner an email and he called me to explain any questions I had about the products.
Also with the external oil filter much easier to change. The engine revs great and I do not feel any additional vibes after the install (removal of the balance shaft) kit.
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« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2006, 03:32:54 AM »
I purchased the kit and the external oil filter kit from 909. It was a very informative install with great pics and info. If used with the above info no one should have any problems. Dealing with Sport Compact Industries was a great experience. I sent the owner an email and he called me to explain any questions I had about the products.
Also with the external oil filter much easier to change. The engine revs great and I do not feel any additional vibes after the install (removal of the balance shaft) kit.
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i like the write-up 909
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« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2006, 11:56:27 AM »
hate_romania, you mentioned in another thread that you and phildonis noticed your engine temps seemed to be elevated after doing this mod... any ideas as to why that might be?  If anything, it would seem to me that having more oil flowing through the engine would help keep things a tick cooler.
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« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2006, 06:28:27 PM »
hate_romania, you mentioned in another thread that you and phildonis noticed your engine temps seemed to be elevated after doing this mod... any ideas as to why that might be? If anything, it would seem to me that having more oil flowing through the engine would help keep things a tick cooler.

i think the temperature increases cause by doing the bsd you block the oil feed, and by the size of the balance shaft that amount of metal cools the oil pretty good plus it conects to the block so it extend the surface where the oil comes in contact with metal (the block)
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Re: BSD how-to by me :D
« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2006, 01:30:17 AM »
Little tip on the oil pickup tube.

Remove one bolt, and loosen the other so it pivots out of the way.  That way, you can't forget to reinstall it.  If you remove it, make sure it goes back.  I know of one engine where the owner forgot to reinstall the pickup tube.  Needless to say, the engine wasn't happy.


"The owner" eh??!  :P

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« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2006, 06:22:12 AM »
UPDATE 4000km after the bsd running perferct, noi oil consumation, no vibration, no oil leaks...
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dmention7

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Re: BSD how-to by me :D
« Reply #24 on: April 25, 2006, 09:25:14 AM »
Planning on doing mine the weekend after next... taking monday and friday off, and have a bunch of small mods planned  :)
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Puffy

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Re: BSD how-to by me :D
« Reply #25 on: April 29, 2006, 01:09:52 AM »
I need to get stands... I want to remove every last bit of the stock intake and do this + install my Simota and buddy club condenser =D!
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Re: BSD how-to by me :D
« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2006, 03:46:24 AM »
now i wanna do this.. but im scared.. or its more like.. i know im gonna fark up..
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Re: BSD how-to by me :D
« Reply #27 on: May 08, 2006, 10:12:22 AM »
I know how you feel... I just fixed my bumper all the way from installing halos like... 5 months ago ... lol
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Re: BSD how-to by me :D
« Reply #28 on: May 08, 2006, 01:50:51 PM »
now i wanna do this.. but im scared.. or its more like.. i know im gonna fark up..
before the bsd i had no mechanical experince whatsoever, i just had guts and i went for it, its intimidating but i can tell you its easy and its a lot of fun, take your time don't rush it helps alot when you have some friends with you that can give you advices, and help.

If you need any help just ask and i will be happy to answer
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Re: BSD how-to by me :D
« Reply #29 on: May 08, 2006, 02:00:25 PM »
bigtrucker and I did this the last weekend and its more a pin in the ass then it is difficult. the instructions provided are NOT very good.

we took about 3-4 hours to do it.  mostly because we couldnt get the oil pan off. we didnt have any screw drivers so we had to find some to pry the pan off.

the instructions said nothing about removing the AC compressor. we took a good 30 minutes trying to wrestle thaqt pan off. and then during installation we took another good 20 minutes putting it back on and decided to just remove the engine mout, which by the way made it WAY easier.

if we were to do it again on my car it would take less then 2 hours easy.
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