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Re: Heated side mirrors
« Reply #60 on: March 11, 2006, 05:46:06 PM »
Placed the order on 3/1, they shipped it out 3/9 (guess they may have had to order it), expected arrival is 3/14. I'll prob install and test on Wed.

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Re: Heated side mirrors
« Reply #61 on: March 12, 2006, 12:14:23 AM »
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Re: Heated side mirrors
« Reply #62 on: March 12, 2006, 12:37:53 AM »
http://www.mazda3forums.com/index.php?topic=41002.0

yep been there . I'm not paying the 110 per side... Shipped glass + heaters is gonna be <90, and I'm building my own wiring harnesses for about $15. I'll post results next week if u r interested mattleegee.

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Re: Heated side mirrors
« Reply #63 on: March 12, 2006, 05:06:05 AM »
http://www.mazda3forums.com/index.php?topic=41002.0

yep been there . I'm not paying the 110 per side... Shipped glass + heaters is gonna be <90, and I'm building my own wiring harnesses for about $15. I'll post results next week if u r interested mattleegee.


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Re: Heated side mirrors
« Reply #64 on: March 12, 2006, 05:17:25 AM »
 
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Description Qty MSRP Price Your Price  Core Price Total Cost   
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Front door - Outside mirrors - Glass - Electrical W/defogger Left 2004 - 2006   $51.45 $41.16  $0.00 $41.16     
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W/defogger Right 2004 - 2006   $51.45 $41.16  $0.00 $41.16     
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 Isnt that all we need? Or did i skip something? I do want to know more w/pics but...
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Re: Heated side mirrors
« Reply #65 on: March 12, 2006, 07:03:24 AM »
 
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Description Qty MSRP Price Your Price  Core Price Total Cost   
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Front door - Outside mirrors - Glass - Electrical W/defogger Left 2004 - 2006   $51.45 $41.16  $0.00 $41.16     
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W/defogger Right 2004 - 2006   $51.45 $41.16  $0.00 $41.16     
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 Isnt that all we need? Or did i skip something? I do want to know more w/pics but...

That's kinda all you need.  If you just buy the glass/heating element then you need to modify the wiring harness plug on the mirror mount by adding about 6" of wire, and a pin in the connector to get power from the car's harness.  If you don't want to modify the wiring on your car then you have to buy the entire mirror mount for $100 each.  Billm is doing the mod with just the glass. 

billm, have you found a good source for pins to go into the connector yet?

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Re: Heated side mirrors
« Reply #66 on: March 12, 2006, 07:49:05 AM »
Not exactly, but I am making my own pins from scratch, and have tested them already.   I had some old pins left over from years ago from a different project that will work after slight mods. pics to come next week. The ones I am using  seem to be standard .100 header pins.
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Re: Heated side mirrors
« Reply #67 on: March 18, 2006, 04:18:52 PM »
OK folks, got the driver's side mirror glass, P/N BP8M-69-1G7 for the USA  Left hand drivers side, less than $45 shipped (the other side is BP8M-69-1G1, same price) , and it's installed and working!!
It took me a little bit to figure out the best way to do it, maybe 1.5 hrs, but the next one should take 45min or less.

Pop the triangle tweeeter cover off by grasping it at the top. This pic taken later but you can see the cover hanging down.



mirror is held on to the door by 3 screws (8mm heads) two have been removed in this pic. disconnect the connector by depressing the small tang on the connector with a very small screwdriver or something similar. Don't force the connector off. Carefully remove the entire mirror while removing the last screw



the black wire and green/black wire supply currrent to the mirror. you will see that there are no pins in the mirror portion of the connector to hook to these.



OK, now the mirror is off of the car.
you need to disconnect the mirror-side connector from the mirror housing. use a small screwdriver to depress the tang in the narrow slot and pull out  on the connector



there is not a lot of free play so don't pull the connector too far. here it is looking in, these 3 pins are for the two motors for the power mirrors
we are going to add two wires on the other row in the two middle openings, they will then match up with the green/black and black wires on the other half of the connector in the car




no pic of the next step, but you need to remove the old mirror glass. push the glass in at the bottom and right until it won't go in any farther. you will hear the adjusters popping as you do this, but it is OK. grasp the mirror at the top, and pop it off of the 2 small and one large white mounting balls. This is a little tricky, but it will come. alternatively you could pop the small connections loose first  by using a wide-blade screwdriver and looking into the gap between the housing and the mirror glass to wedge the mirror loose from the white connecting balls, but don't crack the glass by putting pressure on it directly with the screwdriver. Once these are free, then pull with your hands again to release the large center connectiing ball. It will come loose, and was designed to be removed this way, so be persistent. You can see a pic later showing the back side of the mirror, and inside the outer piece of the housing you will see the mating mounting points.
 Whew, don't you feel better  :) Here's a pic of the mounting points on the power mirror motors:



Now,
separate the mirror housing sections by removing the 3 screws on the bottom of the housing in a triangle after prying off the thin triangular cover. No need to remove the other screw on the far left




you can see the existing wiring running between the sections. Routing the new  wires should be obvious, you want to follow the existing wires. I would start from the connector side and then into the metal base. You need to pull up on the foam piece around the connector, and at the side of the housing to work the wires through.  I used 20Ga wire, but if I was to do it again, I would prob use 22Ga wire. you will need about 16 in of wire for each wire to make things easy, although the wires will end up shorter at the end once we finish the connections





Here's one end routed. the other end of the wires goes into the mirror housing through the hollow metal shaft.



Here's a blurry pic of the pins that are soldered onto the connector side wires and are pushed into the connector. These are .025" square pins used for wirewrapping. I cut the pin down to 13/16" length or so. you can find these also as header pins for .100" center electronic  headers.







Push the two pins into the connector being careful to use the center two openings that match up to the female half of the connector wires for mirror power inside the car. You want the length of the pins inside the connector to match the existing pins. Once they do, then use a tight, very small wire tie to tie all of the wires together so the new wires do not slip and shorten the exposed section of the pins when connecting back together. cut off the end of the tie after tightening.



Push the connector back into place, and restore the foam into position.  Now we need to put the spade connectors on the other ends of the wires in the mirror housing. leave enough wire so that the new mirror can be easily hooked up, but don't leave a lot of slop. The spade connectors are radioshack narrow female spade crimp-ons, with the red insulators. Crimp or solder them on the ends of the wires.  (in the pic below , I just have the red insulation piece on at this point, i separated them to solder).





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You can now reassemble the mirror housing and remount it to the car, then  reconnect the connector halves, first  making sure the new pins are aligned to mate properly, and then attach the new wires to the mirror glass connectors on the new mirror. (don't let it drop).

I ended up testing mine before snapping the new mirror into place. wanted to make sure the power mirror connectors did not come loose also. careful not to short anything.
The new mirror gets very warm to the touch after about a minute or two.

Align the new glass properly and then snap it back to the connecting balls by pushing it back in, starting with the large center ball, then the lower ball, and finally the outer ball.



Follow the same steps for the passenger side.

Clean and adjust your mirrors and enjoy!!!
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Re: Heated side mirrors
« Reply #68 on: March 18, 2006, 11:50:24 PM »
You da man billm.  Still haven't decided if I'm going this way, or full replacement though our recent warm weather has probably taken that question out of the running until the fall/winter. :goodjob:

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Re: Heated side mirrors
« Reply #69 on: March 19, 2006, 11:07:50 AM »
billm- what do the front side of the mirrors look like? do they have the heater symbol? And are they pentoscopic? A picture would be great, if you can. Thanks.

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Also, are the mirrors a US part number? Or UK? I got confused somewhere along the way.

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Re: Heated side mirrors
« Reply #70 on: March 19, 2006, 02:26:22 PM »
billm- what do the front side of the mirrors look like? do they have the heater symbol? And are they pentoscopic? A picture would be great, if you can. Thanks.

-CJ

Also, are the mirrors a US part number? Or UK? I got confused somewhere along the way.

I seem to remember a recent picture someone put up of them that didn't have the little defrost logo on the mirror itself.  The part numbers are US parts (which is why bagman1 can get them).  Does pantoscopic mean convex?  I'm confused.

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Re: Heated side mirrors
« Reply #71 on: March 19, 2006, 04:48:57 PM »
billm- what do the front side of the mirrors look like? do they have the heater symbol? And are they pentoscopic? A picture would be great, if you can. Thanks.

-CJ

Also, are the mirrors a US part number? Or UK? I got confused somewhere along the way.
the front looks identical to the non-heated. No heater symbol.  The numbers I gave in the walkthrough are US numbers. There are UK equivalents I believe.

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Re: Heated side mirrors
« Reply #72 on: March 19, 2006, 05:45:37 PM »
Excellent job!..but a tad too involved for me thats why I'm ordering a complete replacement. Seeing that I'm only getting the drivers side, the price isnt too bad for a complete factory replacement heated mirror assy.

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Re: Heated side mirrors
« Reply #73 on: March 20, 2006, 06:47:39 PM »
Hey Billm,

Can you give us some more detailed instructions on how to take the mirror out?  The instruction that you've given above is it for the driver side, and is the mirror turned upside down when you've pulled it out or just the same way as it is in the car.  I'm a little bit scared on that part because I don't want to screw it up by having loose side mirrors during highspeed driving.

I'm planning to do the work in my powered retractable mirror with LED turning signal.  That's why I need some more detailed instructions to make sure that I can do the work properly before I make a decision to order those heated mirrors.  Of course, once the work will be done, I will show it to our members as well.

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Re: Heated side mirrors
« Reply #74 on: March 20, 2006, 08:38:15 PM »
With the last picture, the mirror is hanging down, and you are looking at the back obviously. the side with the attached wires goes toward the door. Scan up a few pics ( 6th pic from the top), til you see the inside of the mirror housing wherer the pic shows the white power motor section. that is where the mating balls are that go into the matching sections on the back of the mirror. They have white grease on them. These reattach with a solid snap once they are in place. there is no mistaking when they are in. Also, you will be able to tell by using the power controls to move them up/down, and in/out.

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« Reply #75 on: March 20, 2006, 09:04:02 PM »
^^^ Heh heh.  Mating balls. :lol:

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« Reply #76 on: March 20, 2006, 09:08:10 PM »
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Re: Heated side mirrors
« Reply #77 on: March 20, 2006, 09:10:21 PM »
oops, perhaps a poor choice of words  :) In the manual, they call them "pins"

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« Reply #78 on: March 21, 2006, 01:08:44 AM »
Thanks, billm!

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Re: Heated side mirrors
« Reply #79 on: March 31, 2006, 11:36:51 PM »
Did the passenger side today. Start to finish ~ 1Hr. including building the new wires, off / install / back on the car. Man, these are the warmest heateds I've seen! Much better than previous vehicles... Total parts cost for both sides $95. ! Anyone need  a pair of std mirrors?  :)

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« Reply #80 on: April 24, 2006, 10:28:42 AM »
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can you see a way to bypass alc lthe soldering?
not very handy with that..

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« Reply #81 on: April 24, 2006, 11:11:10 AM »
billM

can you see a way to bypass alc lthe soldering?
not very handy with that..

thanks

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Well if you don't want to solder then just get the full replacement mirror. :D  Or buy some wires and start practicing.

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« Reply #82 on: April 24, 2006, 02:53:35 PM »

Well if you don't want to solder then just get the full replacement mirror. :D  Or buy some wires and start practicing.

I guess I will go practice...  Ijust bought the glass-part-only heated mirrors.. it will come together with PhatBox...
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« Reply #83 on: April 24, 2006, 05:56:04 PM »
I have one more question... I really can;t figure out where to buy the pins...

do I go to an audio store? or radioshack (I can't seem to find them there)...

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« Reply #84 on: April 25, 2006, 03:53:03 PM »
third post in row from me :(

BILLM:

I am having trouble find ing the pins.. I see a lot of LED's etc with pins that looks similar to the pins in the harness... however they do not say that they are .025" ... is this size a standard (-ish) for pins? where did you buy them?

I do find a bunch of stuff saying it is "/025" square" pins, but the pins are much shorter than the 1" you had... and it seems one needs quite a bit of length to get through the plug.

do you have any advice, where to look?

Thanks

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« Reply #85 on: April 26, 2006, 11:48:32 AM »
Give me your address via PM and I'll send you some.

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Re: Heated side mirrors
« Reply #87 on: December 02, 2006, 11:21:49 AM »
Just finished replacing the drivers side mirror on my '07 GT following the above directions.  The mirror fits/works 100%.  Two issues came up:

1)  The three screws holding the mirror base to the mirror body (the ones in a triangle that are under a small thin cover) are NOT philips head, but instead are T25's.  I think the proper name is "Torx" size 25.  This type of screw head looks like a star.

2)  I couldn't find anything to use as pins, until I started cleaning out my junk drawer:  I ended up cutting the leads off a silicon diode I had.  Radio Shack part 276-1101, "1N4001 Micromini silicon diode.  I just checked and it appears that RS stores stock the item and it's less than $1 for a pair of them.  (each diode has two ends - each of which can be used as a "pin.")  Please don't ask me why I had a package of these laying around.  I really don't know.

Thanks for the walkthrough, billm.

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« Reply #88 on: December 30, 2006, 12:46:04 AM »
Just in case anyone was wondering, just installed the heated mirrors on the MS3

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Re: Heated side mirrors
« Reply #89 on: December 31, 2006, 02:15:48 PM »
I know this might be a lot more work, but would it be possible to remove the actual glass from the plastic frame?  If so, if you are looking to do this in an inexpensive way, what about using handgrip heaters and glueing them in between the glass and the frame?  I found these for $26 shipped on ebay----

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=005&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=150076132632&rd=1&rd=1

These (if they could be mounted) could then be wired to have a hi/lo setting, or just wire into the factory harness.

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