Kinda interested in what happened to this reflash deal?
We are a small tuning firm in the US that has also partnered with Piasani. We have been reflashing the NA 2.3 for quite some time now and having great results.
To answer a few of the questions you guys have asked;
1 yes the speed limited can be removed. Current na cars on our Dynapac chassis dyno can easily run to 140 mph, though I have no idea why you would want this on a street car.
2 The rev limiter is also not an issue, and we can tell you that the 2.3 can very safely be reved to 8k, and the 2.0 can do 8200. Again, not sure why youd want to on a street car, and it will shorten the life span of the stock rods.
3 the reflash can be done as a generic type thing for almost stock cars, however if you want the best for your buck, we ask that a dyno sheet be provided with wideband o2 when we recieve the pcm. For best results we prefer to tune the car on our dyno, in house. This is way more exacting, and it's cool to see the look on the owners face when we are done.
4. the reflash is undetectable. Let me say that again, the reflash is undetectable, so if your car needs to go to the dealer, they can't see what you have done.
5 the reflash can be locked in to your pcm. This is a rather neat function as it prevents overflashing at the dealer. The pcm will accept the overflash, but will not load it.
6 the reflash is totaly reversable, and once you pay for it, it's yours, even if you need to return to stock, and want to be able to re-reflash at a later date. No problem
Now with all that said, I'm sure there will be flamers and naysayers out there.But read on first
The stand alone systems are very cool. We tune Motec, Electromotive,Wolf,and Mega-Squirts for quite afew of our regular customers. We also do several of the high end piggy backs. I'm not going to run them down, they are very good at doing what they were designed for. But, not everyone has the time, talent, or $$ to do their own tuning, and the consequences of making the wrong move while tuning an ecu can get not only expensive, but deadly.Trust me, we have spent way to much time fixing bad tuning from owners, and even "pro" tuners.
This is where the reflash is nice, pop it out, pop it in, done. You pay for the tune, the dyno time, the experence of the tuner. No learning curve, no costly screw ups, no wasted time. Just good clean fun.
And no, I'm not gonna quote numbers here. HP numbers truly mean nothing. We all know that numbers range wildly from one dyno to the next, even within the same family of dyno. I will tell you that the NA 2.3 can very easily beat 155+ fwhp in STOCK FORM with a few simple tweeks, and a reflash.(stock cats,stock cams,stock tb, stock compression).TQ and driveablity rule this game, and the flash that Piasani does is by far the best I have seen. They are a great company to work with, and we are proud to be partnered with them.
I'm gonna go out on a limb, and make you guys an offer; I will reflash one 2.3 NA for someone at half price on the forum to show just how damn good this is.
Here is the deal;
1 I would prefer a stock, or close to stock 2.3. I want the owner to run before and after dyno pulls(on the same dyno, at the same shop).
2 I require a good wide band o2 and data log on your car, independant of the dyno's o2 and data (most reputable shops have an LM2 for this).
3 Your car has to be in good shape, no claped out crap, lower the mileage the better, so I require a leak down and compesion readings for the car in question.
4 You pay for your own dyno time, shipping, and outside labor.
5.You may post whatever dyno sheets you have of this flash, its your money if you want to share, fine.
6. I will raise the limiters, however, I will not be held accountable for you doing something stupid. You agree that this is for track use only, and as the driver you are solely liable for your actions in driving the car after the flash. The rev limit will depend on what you intend to do with the car, but I think we should keep it within reason, say 7400?
7. You must be able to do the removal and install on your pcm( or have it done by a reputable shop) without damaging it. OK this sounds simple, but trust me, I have had several pcms show up at the shop that have been DOA due to faulty removal. And even more after they get back cause somebody got to excited and reversed the battery conections!!!
So thats the deal, anyone out there wanna give it a try? Wanna put you money where you mouth is? I have!
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