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Re: MS3 or CSRT4
« Reply #30 on: March 18, 2009, 06:43:32 PM »
Ok I have had some issues with my Black MS3; but I could never imagine waking up and walking up to a caliber everyday... does that make me a bad person?
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Re: MS3 or CSRT4
« Reply #31 on: March 18, 2009, 06:46:39 PM »
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Re: MS3 or CSRT4
« Reply #32 on: March 18, 2009, 06:47:17 PM »
Ok I have had some issues with my Black MS3; but I could never imagine waking up and walking up to a caliber everyday... does that make me a bad person?

  Whats even funnier is that I said just that to someone at work today.

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Re: MS3 or CSRT4
« Reply #33 on: March 18, 2009, 06:47:57 PM »
You know I would def get the CSRT4 over a jeep any day lol
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Re: MS3 or CSRT4
« Reply #34 on: March 18, 2009, 06:52:44 PM »
^ SRT8 ftw.. and you know it.

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Re: MS3 or CSRT4
« Reply #35 on: March 18, 2009, 06:52:57 PM »
You know I would def get the CSRT4 over a jeep any day lol

Not a SRT8 Cherokee. They're sweet.
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Re: MS3 or CSRT4
« Reply #36 on: March 18, 2009, 06:53:35 PM »
^ SRT8 ftw.. and you know it.

I was typing damnit. :)
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Re: MS3 or CSRT4
« Reply #37 on: March 18, 2009, 06:54:36 PM »

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Re: MS3 or CSRT4
« Reply #38 on: March 18, 2009, 06:54:45 PM »
You know I would def get the CSRT4 over a jeep any day lol

Not a SRT8 Cherokee. They're sweet.

mufucka if I could afford that then yea lol, I wouldn't eve mess with the CSRT4 lol
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« Reply #39 on: March 18, 2009, 06:55:56 PM »
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Re: MS3 or CSRT4
« Reply #40 on: March 19, 2009, 09:33:00 AM »
i'm selling mine. $17.5 with 19k miles. with all the bolt ons in my sig. Just had a brand new turbo put in yesterday (leaking seal, new turbo is the latest from mazda, will not have any smoke). shifting no problems with rear engine mount(i have it) redline mt 90 oil(have it), bushings (have it), slotted rotors, downpipe, racepipe, dealer installed mazdaspeed cold air intake. and couple of other things (good sterio)
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Re: MS3 or CSRT4
« Reply #41 on: March 19, 2009, 10:12:11 AM »
Girls seem to like my MS3 =)
In all seriousness, these cars are pretty comparable in a lot of aspects.
So why not pick the one that MUCH better to look at, and more comfy to be in.

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Re: MS3 or CSRT4
« Reply #42 on: March 19, 2009, 12:29:28 PM »
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Re: MS3 or CSRT4
« Reply #43 on: March 19, 2009, 12:42:45 PM »
lol nice.. and I was joking.  I can type at about 80-100 wpm.. so I know what you're saying about freaking people out, haha.

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Re: MS3 or CSRT4
« Reply #44 on: March 19, 2009, 12:46:03 PM »
I have yet to figure Chrysler/Dodge out.   If it's not big, doesn't look like an SUV,  and can't fit a hemi - Don't build it!

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Re: MS3 or CSRT4
« Reply #45 on: March 19, 2009, 03:29:50 PM »
lol nice.. and I was joking.  I can type at about 80-100 wpm.. so I know what you're saying about freaking people out, haha.

I used to be able to average 92wpm....waaaaay the fuck back in the day lol
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Re: MS3 or CSRT4
« Reply #46 on: March 20, 2009, 12:09:15 PM »
Personally I can't get pass the look of the Caliber, it's SOOOO UGLY...

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Re: MS3 or CSRT4
« Reply #47 on: March 20, 2009, 12:15:11 PM »
idk..... its starting to rub off on me a little.....

its def not something id want to be seen in, but it def has some sport look to it.  they really coulda done something with the front end of it, but then again it does look somewhat aggressive.

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Re: MS3 or CSRT4
« Reply #48 on: March 20, 2009, 12:15:45 PM »
Personally I can't get pass the look of the Caliber, it's SOOOO UGLY...

Just do like that Ludacris song and have one more drink rofl
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Re: MS3 or CSRT4
« Reply #49 on: March 21, 2009, 12:02:19 AM »
http://www.calibersrt4.net/dodge-caliber-srt-4-discussion/2717-csrt4-vs-ms3.html

From the other side.  Even if you dont care about the differences, its fun to read.  They bash the ms3 saying that the seats suck and that old men trying to feel young again buy the ms3. :rofl:



Well buying mine made me feel 29 again... oh wait.... I'm only 25. Yes sir, nothing like a 5 door car that my insurance company told me was a station wagon to make me feel young.  :lol:

I bought my speed3 because of the features. The 2.3L (which is the displacement eclipse guys upgrade to for more torque) direct injected motor does have some teething pains... but nothing too serious. At least, I've never had anything serious happen to mine. The 6 speed transmission is sweet once you put a set of $40 shifter bushings in (or a $6 set of steel washers), and I've yet to drive a car that I didn't feel needed solid shifter bushings. The massive brakes and just-right 18" wheels were a selling point. As was the dynamic stability control, active braking, limited slip differential, and traction control (I drove 2700lb 300hp LSD-less FWD for 7 years... I've done enough long smoky burnouts, got enough fines for doing them, now I prefer accelerating faster and making less smoke). I personally could have done without all the airbags, but I suppose if I ever have an intimate encounter with one of the drivers known as "morons" I'll appreciate them.

The Caliber SRT4 looks like one of those cars I used to make out of a cardboard box when I was a kid. Except my cardboard box cars had a better interior with less plastic. Car and Driver had it right when they called it "Tall (59.7 inches), brickish, and ungainly"

Other things to dislike about the caliber SRT4.....
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  • Large 19" tires on it are EXPENSIVE (check it out!) to replace and made in very few different brands or tread styles/compounds (i see only 5 different tires listed on a major retailer online in this size, compared to 20 for the OE speed3 tire size, and 91 tires for the 225/40-18 size that alot of people run on the speed3).
  • Brakes are larger but take ALOT longer to stop it compared to the speed3.
  • The engine has a timing belt that needs replacement every 100K (at least) and is difficult (or expensive if you have a shop do it) to replace... the speed3 has no timing belt, it uses a low maintenenace timing chain that will likely never need replacement in the life of the car.
  • It weighs more and handles worse than the speed3 (according to Car and Driver specs)

I personally mourned the death of the Neon SRT4. I really wanted one of those back when they came out. I picked the speed3 over even that car though, just based on the specs and the quality of the mazda brand (I always had good luck with them). The new caliber SRT4 is a huge miss though IMHO. Back when the SRT team created the neon SRT4 concept it was kind oa skunkworks project... created to show the potential of the platform to both corporate and the public... I feel like the caliber SRT4 was something they were asked to create because of the success of the previous SRT4, and so that dodge would have a car in the lineup to compete with offerings from other companies. It's not like they didn't put alot of work and good ideas into it, I just don't feel the love with it like I did with the Neon SRT4.
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Re: MS3 or CSRT4
« Reply #50 on: March 21, 2009, 12:24:04 AM »
^^^ nice way to look @ things. 

I too have always been miffed by people talking about things like the brakes are better.  Its like everyone has forgotten that brakes don't actually stop the car.  Engine power is irrelevant, brake size is irrelevant, tire size is irrelevant.  0~60 matters, 60~100 matters, 100~0 matters, track time matters, steering feel matters. 
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« Reply #51 on: March 21, 2009, 02:20:31 AM »
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« Reply #52 on: March 21, 2009, 12:46:52 PM »
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Re: MS3 or CSRT4
« Reply #53 on: March 21, 2009, 07:55:52 PM »
^ SRT8 ftw.. and you know it.

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Re: MS3 or CSRT4
« Reply #54 on: March 22, 2009, 04:38:36 AM »

I thought about a Cobalt SS but it bores the heck out of me.

...and drag radials at the track.

The excellent handling of the Cobalt SS should put a big smile on your face but...

Oh wait... You said "drag radials".

If you are only interested in going fast in a straight line, that is not was the MS3 was designed for (not even close). By design, the MS3 (and the Cobalt SS) is far more at home on a road racing track than it is on a drag strip. Mazda has a long history of road racing and a lot of their know-how went into the MS3 to create a well balanced, good handling road car.

Maybe the CSRT-4 is a better choice for strictly straight line performance.
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Re: MS3 or CSRT4
« Reply #55 on: March 22, 2009, 06:18:20 AM »
http://www.calibersrt4.net/dodge-caliber-srt-4-discussion/2717-csrt4-vs-ms3.html

From the other side.  Even if you dont care about the differences, its fun to read.  They bash the ms3 saying that the seats suck and that old men trying to feel young again buy the ms3. :rofl:


Hahahah, that is funny, or at least to me. The only CSRT-4 I have seen is driven by a ~60yr man. Anyways, bashing aside, everyone has their own tastes and brands that they like. Good luck in your decision.

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Re: MS3 or CSRT4
« Reply #56 on: March 22, 2009, 10:04:34 AM »
Same in Va the two out of three csrt-4 I've seen was driven by older people.
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Re: MS3 or CSRT4
« Reply #57 on: March 22, 2009, 10:27:28 AM »
I honestly can't get over the fact that there was an actual debate on one car being better than the other in that thread because one has a cooler for a glove box LOL.

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Re: MS3 or CSRT4
« Reply #58 on: March 22, 2009, 10:30:31 AM »
I love how they say that the Speed has an "Ugly Ass Hatch Design" instead of a sedan design...  Then go on to say that the design on the Caliber is better.


IMHO, it's a mini Magnum, which was never an attractive car.  Just like the Stratus is a mini Charger.
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  • Car Model: MazdaSpeed 3
  • Car Year: 2008
Re: MS3 or CSRT4
« Reply #59 on: March 22, 2009, 10:54:37 AM »
This about sums it up for me:

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/dodge-caliber-srt4-review/

My favorite line:

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It’s just right for 13-year-old motorists with $22,995 burning holes in their pockets.
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